Tuesday, December 27, 2022

Embraer EMB-505 Phenom 300, N16DF: Accident occurred December 27, 2022 at Hawthorne Municipal Airport (KHHR), Los Angeles County, California

Federal Aviation Administration / Flight Standards District Office; Los Angeles, California 

Upon landing, aircraft went off departure end of runway.

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Date: 28-DEC-22
Time: 02:29:00Z
Regis#: N16DF
Aircraft Make: EMBRAER
Aircraft Model: EMB505
Event Type: ACCIDENT
Highest Injury: NONE
Flight Crew: 1 No Injuries 
Pax: 0
Aircraft Missing: No
Activity: PERSONAL
Flight Phase: LANDING (LDG)
Operation: 91

A private plane crashed near Hawthorne Municipal Airport on Tuesday.

According to firefighters on the scene, all occupants of the plane were able to safely evacuate after the plane crashed at around 6:40 p.m.

The Embraer EMB-505 Phenom 300 is reported to have skidded off the runway after landing.

No injuries have yet been reported.


  1. N16DF, Landing, 47 knot ground speed at the final taxi turnout.

    1. ADSB isn’t the most trust worthy source for that kind of info

    2. Trustworthy enough this time.

      The aircraft continued to transmit GPS coordinates after the squat switch gave it the mode change from air to ground to carry out the requirement to end transmission of baro altitude data upon landing, all of which operated exactly as designed.

      Although accuracy of the ground speed calculation is limited by tolerance of GPS coordinates from the Phenom 300's Nav system and timing skews inherent in processing of received RF transmitted data, the calculated result corresponds well enough this time to understand that N16DF really was going too fast to risk attempting a turn onto the final taxiway entry when the pavement ran out, plowing through the localizer antenna system and ending up stopped sideways with a wing poked thru the perimeter fence.

  2. Took out RW25 localizer, with VASI, ALS and runway end lighting also unservicable per NOTAMs. Port side wing is seen overhanging the sidewalk and lanes of S. Prairie Ave at 2:50 to 3:00 play time in on scene video below. Wet surface conditions evident in the scene video:

    Street view pre-accident photo showing localizer equipment:

  3. I'm not a Luddite, but today's aviators need more stick and rudder time, even when "flying" the glass in "flight modes." Real pilots hand-flew DC-10's in the soup, on the gauges, while holding heading +/- 5, altitude +/- 50 and airspeed +/- 5 knots in severe turbulence with a head cold....a feat no modern "pilot" can do, even with the glass on autopilot, especially with "safety" software. Complacency and lack of flying skills will soon bring down many of today's/future buses, especially on "aircraft" that take decisions away from the "pilot," as in a Scarebus, um, Crashbus, correction, Airbus where the flight deck now has passengers instead of pilots.

    1. Back when I was instructing in gliders a senior Airbus captain stopped by for some instruction (he even gave me one of his company business cards). I flew the tow, then gave him the controls..... In spite of my polite instructions and demonstrations, he had all sorts of trouble. I let him fly the pattern but he was unable to even line the glider up with the runway. It must've been a humbling and humiliating experience for him, for while he lived near our field he never returned.
      A couple of our tow planes were also wrecked by high-time airline pilots who thought they could fly the cute little tail dragger.

    2. You don't even have to go that far back. I became a professional in 2006 and I think todays generation is for a lack of a better word, soft.

  4. Check the safety records. Fewer accidents than in the old days you are referring to. For better or worse the technology has changed, but younger pilots are doing pretty well so far, accidents such as above,not withstanding.

  5. Friend of mine has flown with this pilot. She is apparently very attractive but in conversations he had said that she was about as cocky and arrogant of a pilot as he has known. Didn't think much of it at the time, but now that an accident has occurred it certainly makes me wonder how fast she was and why a go around wasn't executed when speed in a short (4200'), wet runway environment. No TR's in a Phenom relies heavily on speed precision and braking. With excess speed comes heavy braking, which produces two potential scenarios, 1) brake overheating 2) hydroplaning. With a heavy airplane (7 pax), hydroplaning seems less likely, but still possible, if fast. The weather wasn't too bad so not sure why things went bad. Glad everyone is ok.

    1. You are correct, she is cocky and an accident was inevitable... I warned her company about her over a previous incident and they did nothing. hopefully they do something this time...

    2. Was this a single pilot operation, and the previous warning makes me wonder if JP was her name flying. Glad no one was hurt ..

  6. If the ADSB is even close to accurate, you can't touchdown halfway down a short runway and expect to stop safely. Especially in wet conditions and no TRs.

  7. This was a single pilot operation