Sunday, August 06, 2017

Controlled Flight into Terrain: Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee, N56884; accident occurred August 05, 2017 near Sky Manor Airport (N40), Pittstown, New Jersey


The National Transportation Safety Board did not travel to the scene of this accident.

Additional Participating Entity:

Federal Aviation Administration / Flight Standards District Office; Allentown, Pennsylvania

Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf


Investigation Docket - National Transportation Safety Board: https://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms

http://registry.faa.gov/N56884 



Location: Pittstown, NJ
Accident Number: ERA17LA267
Date & Time: 08/05/2017, 2230 EDT
Registration: N56884
Aircraft: PIPER PA28
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Defining Event: Controlled flight into terr/obj (CFIT)
Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General Aviation - Personal 

Location: Pittstown, NJ
Accident Number: ERA17LA267
Date & Time: 08/05/2017, 2230 EDT
Registration: N56884
Aircraft: PIPER PA28
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Defining Event: Controlled flight into terr/obj (CFIT)
Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General Aviation - Personal

Analysis 

The student pilot owned the airplane and intended to conduct a 20-minute night, cross-country flight to a nearby airport for avionics installation. During a circling descent to the destination airport, the airplane collided with trees and terrain, which resulted in a postcrash fire.

Examination of the wreckage did not reveal any evidence of preimpact mechanical malfunctions or failures that would have precluded normal operation. The student had a total flight experience of 105 hours, of which 5 hours were at night. He had not flown during the 90-day period preceding the accident.

Probable Cause and Findings

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
The student pilot's improper decision to conduct a night flight and his failure to maintain adequate altitude during the approach, which resulted in controlled flight into trees and terrain. Contributing to the accident was the student pilot's lack of total and recent night flight experience.

Findings

Aircraft
Altitude - Not attained/maintained (Cause)

Personnel issues
Identification/recognition - Pilot (Cause)
Decision making/judgment - Student pilot (Cause)
Total experience - Student pilot (Factor)
Recent experience - Student pilot (Factor)

Environmental issues
Tree(s) - Effect on operation (Cause)
Dark - Effect on personnel

On August 5, 2017, about 2230 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-140, N56884, owned and operated by the student pilot, was substantially damaged during a collision with trees and terrain, while on approach to Sky Manor Airport (N40), Pittstown, New Jersey. The student pilot and one passenger were seriously injured, while a second passenger sustained minor injuries. The personal flight was conducted under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91. Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a visual flight rules flight plan was filed for the flight that departed Blairstown Airport (1N7), Blairstown, New Jersey, about 2210.

Due to his injuries, the student pilot did not recall the accident sequence. He reported a total flight experience of 105 hours, of which, 5 hours were at night. The student pilot had not flown during the 90-day period preceding the accident. The front seat passenger stated that he and the student pilot previously spoke several times about flying the airplane to N40 for required equipment (avionics) installation. The front seat passenger was also seriously injured and remembered only some of the accident sequence. He recalled the student pilot saying, "we are losing altitude, this is not good."

The rear seat passenger sustained minor injuries and recalled that the student pilot stated they had to complete a 360° turn before landing. The student pilot then adjusted the wing flaps and the rear seat passenger saw a red blinking light, powerlines, and trees. The student pilot then stated that they needed to climb, but they were not climbing. The student pilot subsequently remarked that he thought he saw the problem and adjusted the wing flaps again. The rear seat passenger did not recall the impact.

Review of radar data and air traffic control (ATC) communications provided by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), revealed that the airplane was at 3,500 feet mean sea level (msl) when the student pilot reported beginning a descent to ATC at 2224. The airplane flew a track consistent with an approximate 3-mile left base leg to final leg of the airport traffic pattern for runway 7, at N40. While on final approach, the airplane descended from about 2,300 feet msl to 1,300 feet msl as it neared the runway threshold (which was at 548 feet msl). The airplane then completed a right 360° turn and the last radar target was recorded over the airport about 2230, indicating a groundspeed of 70 knots and an altitude of 1,000 feet msl.

The wreckage was located about 1/2-mile beyond the departure end of runway 7 and had been partially consumed by a postcrash fire. Examination of the wreckage by an FAA inspector did not reveal any preimpact mechanical malfunctions. The inspector was able to rotate the crankshaft by hand and confirm camshaft, crankshaft, and valve train continuity to the rear accessory section of the engine. He also attained thumb compression on all four cylinders. The inspector added that the passengers were not certificated pilots.

The student pilot's flight instructor reported that the student pilot attempted to schedule a lesson for August 4, 2017, to gain proficiency; however, the flight instructor already had a commitment. The student pilot then scheduled the flight instructor for August 10, 2017. The flight instructor added that he last provided ground instruction to the student pilot on February 18, 2017, and the student pilot subsequently completed a solo cross-country flight uneventfully during the same day.

The recorded weather at an airport located about 12 miles east of the accident site, at 2253, included calm wind, clear sky and visibility 10 miles.



Pilot Information

Certificate: Student
Age: 34, Male
Airplane Rating(s): None
Seat Occupied: Left
Other Aircraft Rating(s): None
Restraint Used: 3-point
Instrument Rating(s): None
Second Pilot Present: No
Instructor Rating(s): None
Toxicology Performed: No
Medical Certification: Class 3 With Waivers/Limitations
Last FAA Medical Exam: 03/29/2016
Occupational Pilot: No
Last Flight Review or Equivalent:
Flight Time: 105 hours (Total, all aircraft), 105 hours (Total, this make and model), 35 hours (Pilot In Command, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 90 days, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 30 days, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 24 hours, all aircraft)

Aircraft and Owner/Operator Information

Aircraft Make: PIPER
Registration: N56884
Model/Series: PA28 140
Aircraft Category: Airplane
Year of Manufacture:
Amateur Built: No
Airworthiness Certificate: Normal
Serial Number: 28-7425057
Landing Gear Type: Tricycle
Seats: 4
Date/Type of Last Inspection: 10/17/2016, Annual
Certified Max Gross Wt.: 2150 lbs
Time Since Last Inspection:
Engines: 1 Reciprocating
Airframe Total Time: 3791 Hours as of last inspection
Engine Manufacturer: LYCOMING
ELT: Installed, activated, did not aid in locating accident
Engine Model/Series: O-320
Registered Owner: On file
Rated Power: 150 hp
Operator: On file
Operating Certificate(s) Held: None 



Meteorological Information and Flight Plan

Conditions at Accident Site: Visual Conditions
Condition of Light: Night
Observation Facility, Elevation: SMQ, 106 ft msl
Distance from Accident Site: 12 Nautical Miles
Observation Time: 2253 EDT
Direction from Accident Site: 90°
Lowest Cloud Condition: Clear
Visibility:  10 Miles
Lowest Ceiling: None
Visibility (RVR):
Wind Speed/Gusts: Calm /
Turbulence Type Forecast/Actual: / None
Wind Direction:
Turbulence Severity Forecast/Actual: / N/A
Altimeter Setting: 29.98 inches Hg
Temperature/Dew Point: 17°C / 15°C
Precipitation and Obscuration: No Obscuration; No Precipitation
Departure Point: Blairstown, NJ (1N7)
Type of Flight Plan Filed: VFR
Destination: Pittstown, NJ (N40)
Type of Clearance: VFR Flight Following
Departure Time: 2210 EDT
Type of Airspace:

Airport Information

Airport: Sky Manor (N40)
Runway Surface Type: Asphalt
Airport Elevation: 560 ft
Runway Surface Condition: Dry
Runway Used: 7
IFR Approach: None
Runway Length/Width: 2900 ft / 50 ft
VFR Approach/Landing: None

Wreckage and Impact Information

Crew Injuries: 1 Serious
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Passenger Injuries: 1 Serious, 1 Minor
Aircraft Fire: None
Ground Injuries: N/A
Aircraft Explosion: None
Total Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor
Latitude, Longitude:  40.407500, -74.966111










NTSB Identification: ERA17LA267
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, August 05, 2017 in Pittstown, NJ
Aircraft: PIPER PA 28-140, registration: N56884
Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. NTSB investigators may not have traveled in support of this investigation and used data provided by various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.

On August 5, 2017, about 2242 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-140, N56884 was substantially damaged during a collision with trees and terrain, while on approach to Sky Manor (N40), Pittstown, New Jersey. The student pilot and one passenger were seriously injured, while the other passenger received minor injuries. The personal flight was conducted under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91. Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed for the flight that departed Blairstown Airport (1N7), Blairstown, New Jersey, about 2215.

The student pilot and front seat passenger had been in an intensive care unit and unable to initially provide a statement. According to preliminary information from a Federal Aviation Administration inspector, the three occupants were related, but neither of the passengers held a pilot certificate. According to the rear seat passenger, family members, and the student pilot's flight instructor, the student pilot had planned to ferry his airplane to N40 the following week with his flight instructor to have avionics installed. However, the three occupants had been at a family picnic during the day of the accident and the student pilot decided to ferry the airplane with them that night, instead of the following week with his instructor. Another family member drove to N40 to provide ground transportation back to the student pilot's home once the airplane had landed.

The rear seat passenger further stated that the airplane was in a circling descent near N40 when the student pilot noted red obstruction lights related to utility wires and indicated that something was not correct. The airplane then collided with trees and impacted the ground. The three occupants were able to egress before a postcrash fire consumed a portion of the cockpit.

The recorded weather at an airport located about 12 miles east of the accident site, at 2253, included calm wind, clear sky and visibility 10 miles.

The wreckage was retained for further examination. The National Transportation Safety Board did not travel to the scene of this accident.

Additional Participating Entity:

Federal Aviation Administration / Flight Standards District Office; Allentown, Pennsylvania

Aviation Accident Factual Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf


Investigation Docket - National Transportation Safety Board: https://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms

http://registry.faa.gov/N56884 

Location: Pittstown, NJ
Accident Number: ERA17LA267
Date & Time: 08/05/2017, 2230 EDT
Registration: N56884
Aircraft: PIPER PA28
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Defining Event: Controlled flight into terr/obj (CFIT)
Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor
Flight Conducted Under: Part 91: General Aviation - Personal 

On August 5, 2017, about 2230 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-140, N56884, owned and operated by the student pilot, was substantially damaged during a collision with trees and terrain, while on approach to Sky Manor Airport (N40), Pittstown, New Jersey. The student pilot and one passenger were seriously injured, while a second passenger sustained minor injuries. The personal flight was conducted under the provisions of Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91. Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a visual flight rules flight plan was filed for the flight that departed Blairstown Airport (1N7), Blairstown, New Jersey, about 2210.

Due to his injuries, the student pilot did not recall the accident sequence. He reported a total flight experience of 105 hours, of which, 5 hours were at night. The student pilot had not flown during the 90-day period preceding the accident. The front seat passenger stated that he and the student pilot previously spoke several times about flying the airplane to N40 for required equipment (avionics) installation. The front seat passenger was also seriously injured and remembered only some of the accident sequence. He recalled the student pilot saying, "we are losing altitude, this is not good."

The rear seat passenger sustained minor injuries and recalled that the student pilot stated they had to complete a 360° turn before landing. The student pilot then adjusted the wing flaps and the rear seat passenger saw a red blinking light, powerlines, and trees. The student pilot then stated that they needed to climb, but they were not climbing. The student pilot subsequently remarked that he thought he saw the problem and adjusted the wing flaps again. The rear seat passenger did not recall the impact.

Review of radar data and air traffic control (ATC) communications provided by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), revealed that the airplane was at 3,500 feet mean sea level (msl) when the student pilot reported beginning a descent to ATC at 2224. The airplane flew a track consistent with an approximate 3-mile left base leg to final leg of the airport traffic pattern for runway 7, at N40. While on final approach, the airplane descended from about 2,300 feet msl to 1,300 feet msl as it neared the runway threshold (which was at 548 feet msl). The airplane then completed a right 360° turn and the last radar target was recorded over the airport about 2230, indicating a groundspeed of 70 knots and an altitude of 1,000 feet msl.

The wreckage was located about 1/2-mile beyond the departure end of runway 7 and had been partially consumed by a postcrash fire. Examination of the wreckage by an FAA inspector did not reveal any preimpact mechanical malfunctions. The inspector was able to rotate the crankshaft by hand and confirm camshaft, crankshaft, and valve train continuity to the rear accessory section of the engine. He also attained thumb compression on all four cylinders. The inspector added that the passengers were not certificated pilots.

The student pilot's flight instructor reported that the student pilot attempted to schedule a lesson for August 4, 2017, to gain proficiency; however, the flight instructor already had a commitment. The student pilot then scheduled the flight instructor for August 10, 2017. The flight instructor added that he last provided ground instruction to the student pilot on February 18, 2017, and the student pilot subsequently completed a solo cross-country flight uneventfully during the same day.

The recorded weather at an airport located about 12 miles east of the accident site, at 2253, included calm wind, clear sky and visibility 10 miles.

Pilot Information

Certificate: Student
Age: 34, Male
Airplane Rating(s): None
Seat Occupied: Left
Other Aircraft Rating(s): None
Restraint Used: 3-point
Instrument Rating(s): None
Second Pilot Present: No
Instructor Rating(s): None
Toxicology Performed: No
Medical Certification: Class 3 With Waivers/Limitations
Last FAA Medical Exam: 03/29/2016
Occupational Pilot: No
Last Flight Review or Equivalent:
Flight Time: 105 hours (Total, all aircraft), 105 hours (Total, this make and model), 35 hours (Pilot In Command, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 90 days, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 30 days, all aircraft), 0 hours (Last 24 hours, all aircraft)

Aircraft and Owner/Operator Information

Aircraft Make: PIPER
Registration: N56884
Model/Series: PA28 140
Aircraft Category: Airplane
Year of Manufacture:
Amateur Built: No
Airworthiness Certificate: Normal
Serial Number: 28-7425057
Landing Gear Type: Tricycle
Seats: 4
Date/Type of Last Inspection: 10/17/2016, Annual
Certified Max Gross Wt.: 2150 lbs
Time Since Last Inspection:
Engines: 1 Reciprocating
Airframe Total Time: 3791 Hours as of last inspection
Engine Manufacturer: LYCOMING
ELT: Installed, activated, did not aid in locating accident
Engine Model/Series: O-320
Registered Owner: On file
Rated Power: 150 hp
Operator: On file
Operating Certificate(s) Held: None 

Meteorological Information and Flight Plan

Conditions at Accident Site: Visual Conditions
Condition of Light: Night
Observation Facility, Elevation: SMQ, 106 ft msl
Distance from Accident Site: 12 Nautical Miles
Observation Time: 2253 EDT
Direction from Accident Site: 90°
Lowest Cloud Condition: Clear
Visibility:  10 Miles
Lowest Ceiling: None
Visibility (RVR):
Wind Speed/Gusts: Calm /
Turbulence Type Forecast/Actual: / None
Wind Direction:
Turbulence Severity Forecast/Actual: / N/A
Altimeter Setting: 29.98 inches Hg
Temperature/Dew Point: 17°C / 15°C
Precipitation and Obscuration: No Obscuration; No Precipitation
Departure Point: Blairstown, NJ (1N7)
Type of Flight Plan Filed: VFR
Destination: Pittstown, NJ (N40)
Type of Clearance: VFR Flight Following
Departure Time: 2210 EDT
Type of Airspace:

Airport Information

Airport: Sky Manor (N40)
Runway Surface Type: Asphalt
Airport Elevation: 560 ft
Runway Surface Condition: Dry
Runway Used: 7
IFR Approach: None
Runway Length/Width: 2900 ft / 50 ft
VFR Approach/Landing: None

Wreckage and Impact Information

Crew Injuries: 1 Serious
Aircraft Damage: Substantial
Passenger Injuries: 1 Serious, 1 Minor
Aircraft Fire: None
Ground Injuries: N/A
Aircraft Explosion: None
Total Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor

Latitude, Longitude:  40.407500, -74.966111

NTSB Identification: ERA17LA267
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Saturday, August 05, 2017 in Pittstown, NJ
Aircraft: PIPER PA 28-140, registration: N56884
Injuries: 2 Serious, 1 Minor.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. NTSB investigators may not have traveled in support of this investigation and used data provided by various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.

On August 5, 2017, about 2242 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-140, N56884 was substantially damaged during a collision with trees and terrain, while on approach to Sky Manor (N40), Pittstown, New Jersey. The student pilot and one passenger were seriously injured, while the other passenger received minor injuries. The personal flight was conducted under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91. Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed for the flight that departed Blairstown Airport (1N7), Blairstown, New Jersey, about 2215.

The student pilot and front seat passenger had been in an intensive care unit and unable to initially provide a statement. According to preliminary information from a Federal Aviation Administration inspector, the three occupants were related, but neither of the passengers held a pilot certificate. According to the rear seat passenger, family members, and the student pilot's flight instructor, the student pilot had planned to ferry his airplane to N40 the following week with his flight instructor to have avionics installed. However, the three occupants had been at a family picnic during the day of the accident and the student pilot decided to ferry the airplane with them that night, instead of the following week with his instructor. Another family member drove to N40 to provide ground transportation back to the student pilot's home once the airplane had landed.

The rear seat passenger further stated that the airplane was in a circling descent near N40 when the student pilot noted red obstruction lights related to utility wires and indicated that something was not correct. The airplane then collided with trees and impacted the ground. The three occupants were able to egress before a postcrash fire consumed a portion of the cockpit.

The recorded weather at an airport located about 12 miles east of the accident site, at 2253, included calm wind, clear sky and visibility 10 miles.

The wreckage was retained for further examination.







FRANKLIN TWP., N.J. - Officials say a small plane with three people aboard crashed and caught fire in Hunterdon County, New Jersey.

Officials said the plane crashed about a half-mile northeast of Sky Manor Airport, near Pittstown. It happened around 10:30 p.m. Saturday.

The Quakertown Fire Company posted photos on Facebook that showed the plane engulfed in flames when they arrived on scene.

The pilot, Kyle Dalrymple, and passengers, Clinton Campbell and Wendy Race, were out of the aircraft and conscious when crews arrived, according to Franklin Township police.

All three were airlifted to the hospital, but there is no word on their conditions.

A spokesperson for the Federal Aviation Administration said the Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee was headed from Blairstown Airport to Sky Manor Airport when it crashed on private property on Pittstown Road.

The Quakertown Fire Company said firefighters and emergency medical crews are helping the victims.

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating the cause of the crash.

Story and video ➤ http://www.wfmz.com




FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP -- Three people were airlifted to various hospitals Saturday night after a plane they were in crashed in the township, police said. 

At about 10:30 p.m. Saturday, township police responded to the crash of a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee on private property on Pittstown Road near Sky Manor Road, Lt. Timothy Snyder Jr. said. 

Kathleen Bergen, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said the Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee went down about half a mile northeast of Sky Manor Airport near Pittstown. The aircraft took off from Blairstown Airport, she said. 

The pilot, Kyle Dalrymple, and two passengers, Clinton Campbell and Wendy Race, were conscious and out of the aircraft when officers arrived at the scene. The three were airlifted to various hospitals, authorities said. 

The crash is under investigation by the FAA. The National Transportation Safety Board will determine probable cause, Bergen said. 

Numerous agencies, including the Quakertown Fire Department and Clinton Rescue, responded to the scene. 

Story and photo gallery ➤ http://www.nj.com







FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP, NJ (Hunterdon County) – A small plane with three on board crashed and caught fire Saturday night in Franklin Township.

The Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee went down about 1/2 mile northeast of Sky Manor Airport near Pittstown, NJ at 10:45 pm on Saturday, according to Federal Aviation Administration spokesperson Kathleen Bergen.


The aircraft took off from Blairstown Airport with three people on board, Bergen said.


The aircraft registration that was located on the plane showed it’s registered to a resident of Belvidere, NJ, according to the Federal Aviation Administration registry.


Emergency crews responded to the 400 Block of Pittstown Road in Franklin Twp for a small plane crash with fire. Franklin Twp Police were on scene within a minute advising 3 trauma patients with an active fire, Quakertown Fire Company Facebook page said.


All 3 patients were transported to nearby Sky Manor Airport for air medevac to  Morristown Medical Center and St Lukes Hospital in Fountain Hill, PA, according to the Quakertown Fire Company.


The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating the crash and the National Transportation Safety Board will determine probable cause, Bergen said.


Assisting the Quakertown Fire Company/Rescue was the North Hunterdon mutual aid group squad, Hunterdon Medical Center paramedics, Clinton First Aid and Rescue Squad, New Jersey State Police NorthSTAR, Atlantic Air One and Hunterdon County Office of Emergency Management.


Original article can be found here ➤ http://wrnjradio.com






FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP, New Jersey (WABC) -- Officials say a small plane with three people aboard crashed and caught fire in a wooded area in New Jersey.

The Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee took off from Blairstown Airport and was headed to Sky Manor Airport when it crashed about a half-mile northeast of the airport, near Pittstown.

It happened around 10:45 p.m. Saturday.

When first responders arrived, they found the plane covered in flames and quickly began helping the three on board.

A foam line was used to attack the blaze.

The passengers were airlifted to trauma centers in Morristown. Their conditions are not yet known.

It's unclear whether the plane was taking off or landing.

The crash is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration.

Story and video ➤  http://abc7ny.com





Officials say a small plane with three people aboard crashed and caught fire in New Jersey.

The plane was headed from Blairstown Airport to Sky Manor Airport when it crashed about a half-mile northeast of Sky Manor Airport, near Pittstown. It happened around 10:45 p.m. Saturday.


The Federal Aviation Administration said three people were on the Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee.


The Quakertown Fire Company said firefighters and emergency medical crews were helping the victims. Their conditions were not immediately known.


Story and video ➤ http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com 





Sky Manor Airport (N40), Pittstown, Hunterdon County, New Jersey
Photo by Kyle Dalrymple  (Facebook)


A single-engine plane crashed and caught fire with 3 people on board in Hunterdon County Saturday night.

Investigators say the plane left Blairstown Airport when it went down near Sky Manor Airport Saturday night, near Pittstown.

According to the Federal Aviation Administration, the aircraft was a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee.

There is no word on the conditions of the three who were aboard, and their identities have not been released at this time.

The cause of the crash is unclear.

Story and video ➤ http://newjersey.news12.com

8 comments:

  1. Does anyone know how the pilot and passengers are doing?

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  2. Unfortunately no word on their prognosis.

    What happened? Did the aircraft stall on final?

    Anyone fly with 3 adults in a PA28-140? Those rear seats appear small-sized, not much legroom. But, then again, this was a short flight.

    Best wishes for a speedy recovery for the occupants of N56884.

    Thoughts and prayers with the injured.

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  3. I own a Cherokee 140 and have flown with 4 adults. The 140 shares the same cabin as the 180 and 235 in regards to seating. Even with 4 adults, if the weight is kept within gross and within acceptable CG the 140 flies great.

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  4. Any updates on the incident, pilot or passengers?

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  5. They are progressing, we know that but we are also realistic and know it is a long road ahead.

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  6. Student pilot with passengers is a no-no. Please don't attempt any flight if you are a student pilot. I just finished reading the preliminary and mad as hell. Sorry :(

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  7. They are all alive, fortunately. The two passengers had not been aware that the student pilot was not certificated.

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  8. Any litigation arise out of this incident?

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