Friday, June 02, 2017

Wisconsin Aviation: “Extremely critical” - Pilots view weather forecasting from a different perspective

Sean Hatley
 Director of Flight Training at Wisconsin Aviation 

Trevor Janz, Wisconsin Aviation 

Rachel Kaye
FOX6 Meteorologist

MILWAUKEE -- Weather on the ground is one thing, but rain clouds and jet streams take on new meaning when you're flying through them. Flight safety depends a lot on the forecast -- at all levels of the atmosphere.

"From the local news, it'll say cloudy. But is that 10,000 feet, is it 500 feet? Big difference for flying," said Sean Hatley, Director of Flight Training at Wisconsin Aviation. "I don't care if you're in a 747 or a small plane like we flew in here today. You're in that world, and you've got to abide by the laws of nature."

Hatley and Trevor Janz with Wisconsin Aviation gave FOX6's Rachael Kaye the opportunity to go through their forecasting process with a first flight lesson. Janz said he starts most days by watching FOX6 WakeUp.

"First thing in the morning, before I'm going to fly, it gives me a really good overview of what's going to happen. Let you guys do all the work. And usually you're pretty accurate," Janz said.

But there is a lot more pilots need to know beyond what we cover on-air.

"Knowing those freezing levels, and knowing what kind of precipitation is in the clouds, is extremely critical," Hatley said.

Commercial aircraft have de-icing equipment built-in. But for a small plane, icing in clouds would change the curvature of the wing. A worst-case scenario could mean falling from the sky.

"So I use the ForeFlight here to kind of get a fine-tuned picture of what the weather's doing," Hatley said.


ForeFlight is a program that gives Hatley all the weather tools he needs before flying. Radar, visibility, winds and live reports from other pilots. It is something he introduces students to on their first day.

"I can see this kind of collection starting of icing reports, so I know we've got an area of icing over here," Hatley said.

Pilots also use the program to report rough patches.

"We're always looking for a smooth ride. Passengers don't like turbulence, we don't like turbulence," Janz said.

Despite weather hazards, watching storms develop from the air gives Janz a special appreciation for meteorology.

"It is really neat. But you have to be respectful of it. It's very dangerous, the updrafts rip your wings off," Janz said.

It is important to know the hazards. When FOX6's Rachael Kaye took her first lesson, it was a sunny day. The biggest concerns were a layer of haze and some gusty winds.

"I want this on the record, I'm excited and a little nervous," Kaye said.

Some haze made it hard to see the horizon line between the sky and the lake. But what made Kaye most nervous was turbulence.

"I think my instinct when we hit turbulence is to pull back up," Kaye said.

"And that's an instinct we'd need to get rid of pretty quickly in your training," Hatley said.

Wisconsin Aviation offers intro flights out of Madison, Juneau and Watertown. Of course, that includes a weather lesson. For more information, CLICK HERE.

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  1. I have always (40 years) viewed the aviation weather forecast product, Flight Service, The Weather Channel, or local news as something that was a broad dissemination of pertinent and relative information for small airplanes.

    If the reports say rain and it is cold, stay on the ground. Small training airplanes do not belong in those conditions.

    The aviation industry (for flight training) has always tried to inject a high level of intellect where common sense belongs; creating decisions that lead to disaster.

    They have tried to back pedal by creating the ACS instead of using the PTS. If we had better flight instructors and examiners that view the common sense approach to flying, we would not have to create the false sense of blame where it does not belong.

    It’s simple folks. Put a 2” diameter hole in the center of a 5” by 5” piece of paper. Hold it up to the sky. If the center is not blue, consider staying on the ground. One thing is assured, at least you will live to enjoy another day of flying.

    20 years ago, I overheard A very seasoned CFI telling someone, pilots who die in bad weather, are buried in the sunshine.

    ATP/CFI ~ 25K hrs. from Cessna to Boeing

  2. Wonderful commentary and article. Everyone should pursue the passion they feel towards a certain kind of work.