Friday, August 27, 2021

Embraer EMB-505 Phenom 300, N413N: Incident occurred August 26, 2021 at Elk River Airport (NC06), Banner Elk, Avery County, North Carolina





Federal Aviation Administration / Flight Standards District Office; Greensboro, North Carolina

Aircraft appears to have landed long and went off the end of the runway and struck a parked vehicle at Elk River Airport (NC06), Banner Elk, Avery County, North Carolina.

Nicholas Services LLC


Date: 26-AUG-21
Time: 18:00:00Z
Regis#: N413N
Aircraft Make: EMBRAER
Aircraft Model: EMB-505
Event Type: INCIDENT
Highest Injury: NONE
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: UNKNOWN
Activity: UNKNOWN
Flight Phase: LANDING (LDG)
Operation: 91
City: BANNER ELK
State: NORTH CAROLINA

23 comments:

  1. The overrun is short:

    Street view:
    https://goo.gl/maps/GZgVGKbzLnFy1cr37

    Aerial view:
    https://www.google.com/maps/place/Elk+River+Airport/@36.1639867,-81.9021112,308m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8850929d0e0d4297:0xe469ee55c9b1732b!8m2!3d36.1584678!4d-81.8878833

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    1. Runway very wet. Overrun on 4,600 ft. runway by a fairly large airplane probably largely due to poor braking effect.

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    2. Rumored that an earlier crew from the same company turn down the flight into Elkriver less experience crew was coerced by the owner of the company to make the flight

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    3. Owner rules with a iron fist uses Training Agreements and threats to keep pilots I am sure that the pilots were afraid to lose their job if they did not take the flight if terminated they would be subject to the full amount of the training agreement for training because the company has right to fire them for any reason at any time and collect the full amount of the training agreement not a prorated contract there are pilots being sued at this time for leaving this unsafe company...

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    4. We would love to hear a response from you since you just randomly stumbled upon this post and instantly became a "white knight" for this "company" <- (don't want to start another rumor)... Nicholas Air has an internal reputation that many know about and very, very few would ever attempt to or have the audacity to take a defensive stand towards their side.

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    5. I stumbled upon this because my job is as a writer in the business aviation industry and after seeing how tense the entire industry can be at these times, I have always found it fair to wait for facts. Call it preference, or call it responsible journalism. No sides taken, but any normal person would just be glad to see an injury-free situation.

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    6. Really what business aviation company do you work for anyone we know? Do you freelance or do you work for Nicholas Air and write press releases to cover up their unsafe practices

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  2. Rumors are not fair to any of the people involved, so best to wait for accurate news to come out from a legitimate authority?
    People on the ground and some of the pictures show the pilots did a great job of avoiding a much worse scenario so you have to tip your cap to them.

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    1. You have pictures please provide any pictures for us to see and let us make our own determination what kind of a job they did thank god no one was killed I don't blame the pilots I blame the the unsafe company that they work for.

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    2. Profits over safety, be honest with yourself. The owner has no business being in aviation.

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  3. tip your cap?!? They were doomed from the time they took off as the numbers don't anywhere close to support the landing distance there.

    I'll tip my hat to the crew that turned "supposedly" turned the trip down.

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    1. I agree they did the right thing

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    2. I heard it take 9200 feet to land on that runway. For a Phenom.

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    3. You might want to speak proper English there Bud.

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  4. Why were the reg numbers covered with duct tape ? Are they required to be visible?

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  5. The registration numbers were covered with duct tape because the owner of the company directed the crew to cover the numbers.

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  6. 4600 is too short for a Phenom 300 on a wet runway. Part 91 makes it legal, but still a poor decision. Crew should have declined, company shouldn’t have let it happen. Dual responsibility.

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    1. Agreed with wet runway no less than 6000ft would I even then considering going into NC06. Current Nicholas Air Captain

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  7. Love this for NJ and his stupid side kick Peter. Couldn't have happened to a better company.

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  8. Does anyone at Nicholas Air know if the pilot reviewed the Elk River Pilot Manual before trying to go into NC06 might have been helpful.

    http://www.elkriverairport.com/library/Elk_River_Airport_Pilots_Manual.pdf

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  9. To the "Anonymous" that deleted the comments you posted: "what you had posted was some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having to read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

    Here's the predicament you put yourself in for saying that you "had the numbers" to legally fly this airplane into this airport:

    1) Yes you had the numbers to legally do it with 2 pilots, 150lbs of bags and roughly VFR min. fuel.

    2) Unfortunately there's no fuel at this airport so now that you've landed "legally" with the min. amount of fuel you cannot get back out because this airport doesn't have ANY Jet-A on the field, ergo, there had to be more than roughly VFR min. fuel to make it to another airport which interferes with point #1.

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  10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=ntDhUM_Lu6A&feature=youtu.be

    10' away from disaster

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