tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post8147143286089826493..comments2024-03-18T16:47:17.085-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cessna 310J , N3187L: Fatal accident occurred December 12, 2021 near Dobies Airport (0K6), Inola, Rogers County, OklahomaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-8743231918570448412021-12-21T15:50:54.116-05:002021-12-21T15:50:54.116-05:00CO detectors are fairly inexpensive insurance.CO detectors are fairly inexpensive insurance.Tempestdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10719918192145936228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-6322963487845450472021-12-17T16:39:32.270-05:002021-12-17T16:39:32.270-05:00Ferrying for annual inspection
Ferrying for annual inspection<br />Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485292405260002352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-79794830625106747432021-12-17T16:37:42.998-05:002021-12-17T16:37:42.998-05:00He was only 66 yrsHe was only 66 yrsAnonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17485292405260002352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-84234425131040237712021-12-17T09:30:17.978-05:002021-12-17T09:30:17.978-05:0076 years old, probably stroke, 76 is more than mos...76 years old, probably stroke, 76 is more than most of us will see. Godspeed brother! Hope I can still fly that well at 76, did great til you left this worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-36763746567214051942021-12-16T19:24:40.654-05:002021-12-16T19:24:40.654-05:00True, and that speed increase is why it was stated...True, and that speed increase is why it was stated as a possible expedited approach with pilot becoming overwhelmed before completion.<br /><br />Looked for examples of significant inflight fire/smoke in cockpit on Cessna twins in CAROL and NASA ASRS to explain expediting the approach, but did not find anything to suggest significant cockpit fire/smoke from avionics or electrical that would Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-57552652258886113692021-12-16T18:05:25.511-05:002021-12-16T18:05:25.511-05:00That could explain the initial turn, but after tha...That could explain the initial turn, but after that the descent was continuously increasing from 200fps initial to over 20,000fps at the end which would suggest incapacitation soon after the turn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-65474774042591467272021-12-16T12:56:07.546-05:002021-12-16T12:56:07.546-05:00The turn toward Claremore Regional Airport (KGCM) ...The turn toward Claremore Regional Airport (KGCM) and descent instead of continuing climb on course to 9,500 as planned may have begun as a divert for conditions warranting expedited approach, with pilot becoming overwhelmed before completion.<br /><br />Wreckage location (see map link below) is just 5 miles short of reaching KGCM.<br /><br />The location correlation to Newson6.com video is basedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-85569397907307883812021-12-15T10:04:24.004-05:002021-12-15T10:04:24.004-05:00The N670BS crash comes to mind.
Tower instruct...The N670BS crash comes to mind. <br /><br />Tower instructed the incoming pilot to report a left downwind for runway 5, he acknowledged, flew through the Class D airspace and descended into the ocean, unnoticed. Search didn't begin for two days.<br /><br />https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102682/pdf<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82114829843271569012021-12-15T01:42:17.381-05:002021-12-15T01:42:17.381-05:00If the LiveATC timing is accurate, N3187L had plum...If the LiveATC timing is accurate, N3187L had plummeted off radar and to the earth at 24896 ft/min and what was ATC's response? <br />"Radar service terminated, squawk VFR."<br /><br />This is why I would never rely on ATC to care if you abruptly drop off radar when you are on with VFR flight following. If you think flight following means you will get search and rescue when you Paragoniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13007207087562746174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-36320029036341278052021-12-14T20:31:20.524-05:002021-12-14T20:31:20.524-05:00News story says pilot is from North Carolina.
New...News story says pilot is from North Carolina.<br /><br />News story's drone video shows debris field and main wreckage.<br /><br />https://www.newson6.com/story/61b645bcb54a5e0bf267b1fc/ohp:-fatality-confirmed-following-plane-crash-in-rogers-county-<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-42188000205693859882021-12-14T18:03:30.228-05:002021-12-14T18:03:30.228-05:00Some previous flight dates found on Adsbexchange:
...Some previous flight dates found on Adsbexchange:<br />Local flights at Cape Fear Airport 2020-02-02, 2020-02-27<br />(^^Registered to Oak Island, NC owner at the time / since 2007)<br /><br />(Certificate was issued to Okmulgee owner 04/06/2020)<br />Cape Fear to Okmulgee Regional 2020-09-19<br /><br />Okmulgee Regional to Tulsa International 2020-11-30<br />Local flights at Tulsa International Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35193685744058972772021-12-14T16:40:21.554-05:002021-12-14T16:40:21.554-05:00Pilot communicated request to go to 9500', was...Pilot communicated request to go to 9500', was granted at 15:25:25Z.<br /><br />On LiveAtc's Tulsa Gnd/Twr/Dep 1500Z recording (approximate times): <br />Tulsa Controller --> 3187Lima at 21:10 "you're #1 sir", then cleared for RW18R Takeoff @21:17. At the 23 minute point, 3187Lima pilot contacts departure, is at 1800 climbing will maintain at or below 2500 and requests Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-51851094114611935302021-12-13T17:10:01.494-05:002021-12-13T17:10:01.494-05:00Yeah my money is on CO poisoning. The flight trac...Yeah my money is on CO poisoning. The flight track has all the signatures of CO incapacitation, although 8 minutes after takeoff seems a little quick. One of the ADs on 310 cabin heaters: https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/0/2430fe9b3cbc805e862580f4005017e7/$FILE/2017-06-03.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-48843189833290901652021-12-13T16:41:42.969-05:002021-12-13T16:41:42.969-05:00Cold weather. CO poisoning? Doesn't the 310 ha...Cold weather. CO poisoning? Doesn't the 310 have an AD out for one of the cabin heaters?MikeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17016462438630782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34107254681114032252021-12-13T15:58:34.470-05:002021-12-13T15:58:34.470-05:00I would want to see what the ferry was for / any c...I would want to see what the ferry was for / any conditions documented in prior work, etc. You just never know with this type of situation. Mechanical seems like the obvious main point of interest, and then other possibilities like medical/suicidal.Reluctant_Posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04105567381756693009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-21133387963383450842021-12-13T13:49:56.979-05:002021-12-13T13:49:56.979-05:00This is a strange one. ADS-B track shows a fairly...This is a strange one. ADS-B track shows a fairly normal climb to 5,800 and then a shallow turn to the north east followed by a smoothly increasing descent straight into the ground. The last few ADS-B returns show a blistering descent rate of -24896 ft/min<br />https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a367e1&lat=36.210&lon=-95.531&zoom=14.7&showTrace=2021-12-12&trackLabels&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34894870502145488362021-12-13T10:08:58.515-05:002021-12-13T10:08:58.515-05:00Part 91 Ferry flight.Part 91 Ferry flight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83044296238787703202021-12-13T08:27:16.186-05:002021-12-13T08:27:16.186-05:00Radar from Tulsa matched the clear sky in the phot...Radar from Tulsa matched the clear sky in the photo of the scene:<br /><br />https://weather.us/radar-us/oklahoma/reflectivity/KINX_20211212-152931z.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-52540444137017677552021-12-13T05:06:13.893-05:002021-12-13T05:06:13.893-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13155902353308303078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-61750071084279044692021-12-13T02:08:10.785-05:002021-12-13T02:08:10.785-05:00N3187LN3187LAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com