tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post7099764795697482422..comments2024-03-28T21:15:11.065-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cessna 425 Conquest I, N783MB: Accident occurred August 11, 2021 in Helena, Lewis & Clark County, Montana Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35174292909932489232022-09-21T00:49:19.428-04:002022-09-21T00:49:19.428-04:00Only 800 hrs. and under fueling is an issue with a...Only 800 hrs. and under fueling is an issue with a 425, usually when done from a truck because it dispenses too fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-77977399490878703392022-05-31T15:39:30.404-04:002022-05-31T15:39:30.404-04:00I wonder how much personal experience the pilot ha...I wonder how much personal experience the pilot had fueling the 425? They tend to present full when the reality is that the fuel is flowing in faster than the collector tank is draining. I coach every line attendant that I meet about that phenomenon. I have been under-fueled multiple times in 3.5 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-1430457216864562202022-01-21T21:39:05.463-05:002022-01-21T21:39:05.463-05:00DEQ monitored the fuel spill and soil remediation ...DEQ monitored the fuel spill and soil remediation at the site. They estimated there to be 75 gallons spilled at the site……actually it was 117 gallons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-50753211373006255362022-01-21T21:34:54.902-05:002022-01-21T21:34:54.902-05:00Because it was jetA +. Also they tell you not to ...Because it was jetA +. Also they tell you not to add prist into a tank is does blend properly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-28433248165497682222021-09-12T20:32:07.528-04:002021-09-12T20:32:07.528-04:00The pilots should have stayed over the Airport and...The pilots should have stayed over the Airport and made a circling approach, as the pilot didn't know what caused the #1 engine to fail. Never turn away from a safe landing when unexplained power loss happens. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-61731053110217451992021-09-12T00:06:45.359-04:002021-09-12T00:06:45.359-04:00Sorry to hear about your father. Glad he’s alive a...Sorry to hear about your father. Glad he’s alive and I wish him a speedy recovery Mouser485https://www.blogger.com/profile/07310339093597452465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7273978244487664572021-09-09T22:16:36.140-04:002021-09-09T22:16:36.140-04:00Flew a 441 for quite a bit and ALWAYS added a can ...Flew a 441 for quite a bit and ALWAYS added a can of prist when I topped off the tanks. If I was doing a 2+ hour flight at altitude, I can't imagine why you would not add prist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-3893611554043816882021-09-09T15:44:13.225-04:002021-09-09T15:44:13.225-04:00Flew more than three hours at 24,000 feet, then on...Flew more than three hours at 24,000 feet, then one followed by second PT6 stopped, highly unusual if sufficient fuel remained.<br /><br />Possible ice crystal loading in fuel screens, or unported the last one flying uncoordinated? <br /><br />https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=aa9cc0&lat=44.590&lon=-105.684&zoom=5.0&showTrace=2021-08-11&trackLabels<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-16780903537300942822021-09-08T11:28:41.961-04:002021-09-08T11:28:41.961-04:00Hope not for the fuel distributors sake. It’s happ...Hope not for the fuel distributors sake. It’s happened as unbelievable as it may be. Confusing the two seems almost impossible, at least to me. <br />When I bought my F250 the selling dealer had a tag attached to the fuel filler nozzle, “ do not add DEF to fuel” .. at the time I laughed at what idiot would even do that. <br /> Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01754612542735454220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-74324773665742860522021-09-07T19:31:06.636-04:002021-09-07T19:31:06.636-04:00"The pilot stated that on the morning of the ..."The pilot stated that on the morning of the accident, HE physically refueled the airplane to full wing tanks by adding an additional 207 gallons of Jet A"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-963693860169678452021-09-07T18:53:47.140-04:002021-09-07T18:53:47.140-04:00Wonder if it was DEF?Wonder if it was DEF?Ibrahimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908436556825169722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-71662774913506298322021-09-07T14:13:03.280-04:002021-09-07T14:13:03.280-04:00A Pratt & Whitney PT6 gas turbine will run on ...A Pratt & Whitney PT6 gas turbine will run on AvGas 100LL as an emergency fuel. Unless it has changed , the limit was a total of 25 hours cumulative that 100LL could be used before teardown of the hot section was required. The engines should not have flamed out , even if that fuel was 100LL. rgaut59https://www.blogger.com/profile/06538277265023676452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-62780410619094462572021-09-07T10:17:36.772-04:002021-09-07T10:17:36.772-04:00First and most important, to the first poster … th...First and most important, to the first poster … thank god your father survived as well as the others. Of course prayers for his speedy recovery.<br />I’ve always been of the mindset while flying my twin, if an engine goes south and there is no related fire, I conserve altitude. I will minimize the decay of altitude in anticipation of a second failure. The plan being, to be overhead an airport, Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01754612542735454220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26134312147317937602021-09-05T21:07:09.323-04:002021-09-05T21:07:09.323-04:00How is your dad? This crash happened on our proper...How is your dad? This crash happened on our property. We found the pilot standing outside the plane on the phone but he had no idea where he was. He 2as pretty shook up. Thank God all 3 got out alive. 🙏Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07947482016058737329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-2781851180104383722021-08-12T18:33:12.108-04:002021-08-12T18:33:12.108-04:00Your father is VERY fortunate to even be alive so ...Your father is VERY fortunate to even be alive so please take comfort in being able to know that. Few get out of crashes like this alive. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30155192138739808902021-08-11T21:28:49.995-04:002021-08-11T21:28:49.995-04:00I’m praying for your dad too. I’m praying for your dad too. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-40035991067166359972021-08-11T18:55:08.873-04:002021-08-11T18:55:08.873-04:00Damn fine piloting skills, regardless of the cause...Damn fine piloting skills, regardless of the cause. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-21445523663404809892021-08-11T18:50:54.395-04:002021-08-11T18:50:54.395-04:00The fuselage appears totally intact between the co...The fuselage appears totally intact between the cockpit and rear where the tail snapped off - doesn't even exhibit any stress wrinkles which would mean hard belly impact. Looks like he may have slid it in there wins level - a lucky patch of land free of trees if so. No fire but some fuel was still leaking. Is it possible it was fueled with 100LL in MN and took that long to develop engine Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-91941084286299042832021-08-11T18:40:56.046-04:002021-08-11T18:40:56.046-04:00My Dad was on that plane. He has a Broken Ankle, R...My Dad was on that plane. He has a Broken Ankle, Ribs, Fractures in his Spine, and Other injuries praying for my DadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com