tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post7025217310084168779..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Loss of Control on Ground: Beech V35B Bonanza, N6643Y; accident occurred August 16, 2020 in White Owl, Meade County, South DakotaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-31656172223942063252021-02-23T10:04:03.528-05:002021-02-23T10:04:03.528-05:00He mentioned the plane didn't respond to his t...He mentioned the plane didn't respond to his turning the yoke full right. That's probably the reason it was going left to be begin with. Right rudder! ..... right rudder!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26332842969579258032021-02-23T00:01:42.718-05:002021-02-23T00:01:42.718-05:00What I should have also mentioned, there is ONLY ...What I should have also mentioned, there is ONLY the one chart for takeoff performance calculations (POH page 5-19) for the V35B. The G36 manual, in comparison, does have 2 takeoff charts, as the commenter above says. (pages 5-19 and 5-20). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70653661866573179592021-02-22T23:34:16.577-05:002021-02-22T23:34:16.577-05:00LOL! Maybe it's the definition of what is a &q...LOL! Maybe it's the definition of what is a "newer Bonanza"---for the accident aircraft, a 1979 V35B,(serial D-10264) chart 5-19 in the POH only shows takeoff "numbers" for a flaps-up takeoff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-86898901493884574462021-02-22T20:33:15.616-05:002021-02-22T20:33:15.616-05:00This is the second time today that I've read t...This is the second time today that I've read that the POH for newer Bonanzas don't mention the use of flaps on takeoff. THIS IS NOT TRUE. Check the performance tables in Section 5 of the POH... there are charts for "Flaps Up" and "Flaps Approach." As one would expect, flaps approach give better short-field takeoff performance. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-55332709739641185172021-02-22T19:07:19.221-05:002021-02-22T19:07:19.221-05:00Actually there are always some pilots who admit wh...Actually there are always some pilots who admit what they did wrong in a report and what they'd do differently next time as a lesson(s) learned. We generally remember those who finger point more than those who are more humble and truthful about what happened. I'm sure someone can do the research for the last say five years of KR stories and run the numbers. My bet would be nearly 50/50 ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-593541739609489502021-02-22T18:58:46.866-05:002021-02-22T18:58:46.866-05:00Wonder if he bothered contacting his insurance age...Wonder if he bothered contacting his insurance agency afterwards?Ethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705728826375207872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-808759985420817142021-02-22T15:50:37.289-05:002021-02-22T15:50:37.289-05:00Always a good idea to consider what aircraft is ba...Always a good idea to consider what aircraft is based at a private field. His named farmer host has a Bellanca Citabria 7GCBC registered to there, which can go in and out of surfaces you might hesitate to take a v-tail.<br /><br />Video below is another 7GCBC doing unimproved surface takeoff. No v-tails in sight.<br /><br />https://youtu.be/tWRqaNfEKPc?t=478<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-31409791238892903402021-02-22T13:59:51.438-05:002021-02-22T13:59:51.438-05:00Good on the pilot for not making excuses.Good on the pilot for not making excuses.M. Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11595367219471598129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-8108528184400969772021-02-22T13:04:04.060-05:002021-02-22T13:04:04.060-05:00Should’ve rejected the takeoff if directional cont...Should’ve rejected the takeoff if directional control was in doubt.Texas Buzzardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476492108800099850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-89540485564542076082021-02-22T11:50:05.632-05:002021-02-22T11:50:05.632-05:00All Bonanzas have wing flaps. What he's sayin...All Bonanzas have wing flaps. What he's saying is, there is nothing in the manual about the use of flaps for takeoff. Early model Bonanzas came with an "Owner's Manual" that had a generic reference to the use of partial flap extension for takeoff from a soft/short field. It is not mentioned in the current manuals, because there are no data provided with which to make a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-14017077263318776992021-02-22T10:09:53.243-05:002021-02-22T10:09:53.243-05:00I think his reference to flaps was for take-off an...I think his reference to flaps was for take-off and not landing...S Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920797630653854987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-52177408354539141502021-02-22T00:46:53.742-05:002021-02-22T00:46:53.742-05:00"The use of flaps was taken out of the POH in..."The use of flaps was taken out of the POH in newer Bonanzas ..."<br />Is this correct?? I haven't flown a Bonanza in 40 years, but I can't imagine landing one without flaps. Were the flaps removed from newer production model Bonanzas?MaxHardoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075678252642958895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-41934486221810802922021-02-21T19:11:25.874-05:002021-02-21T19:11:25.874-05:00So sad that he he didn't practice good ADM bef...So sad that he he didn't practice good ADM before he attempted to takeoff.Yes, "poor technique" indeed !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com