tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post7015980058138031243..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Bombardier CL-600-2B16 Challenger 605, N605TR: Fatal accident occurred July 26, 2021 near Truckee Tahoe Airport (KTRK), Nevada County, California Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger157125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7944094840180339862023-07-02T21:41:29.317-04:002023-07-02T21:41:29.317-04:00This Captain WAS a regional airline Captain with a...This Captain WAS a regional airline Captain with a MAJOR attitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75994669007930130992023-07-02T21:39:10.892-04:002023-07-02T21:39:10.892-04:00This Captain was a 20 year airline professional do...This Captain was a 20 year airline professional doing this flight as a side job. He carried himself like the world's greatest aerobatic pilot, did harebrained stuff all the time, had a pugnacious attitude toward anyone who questioned him. I knew him, was senior to him and he never affected me, but he was a horror story with a cover story that satisfied most people.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-2618621064697395672023-07-02T21:25:38.296-04:002023-07-02T21:25:38.296-04:00Autothrottles don't cancel without an audible ...Autothrottles don't cancel without an audible signal. Nobody was flying the airplane. "After you, Alphonse..." "No, after you, Gaston...."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-50054285568906895722023-06-04T12:09:47.408-04:002023-06-04T12:09:47.408-04:00Yep, 8900 density altitude on transcript. I get 9...Yep, 8900 density altitude on transcript. I get 9133-9163 using met data above and two different calculators. Some calculators may vary, based on station or altimeter pressure. Either way, density about 75-76% sea level. Airspeed minimums need to be at least 15% higher. How could they not be aware of that deciding to hot dog tight final turns, with spoilers deployed even? Safe, lazy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-28047654880687223732023-05-31T08:20:52.235-04:002023-05-31T08:20:52.235-04:00Who speaks for the passengers? How could they pos...Who speaks for the passengers? How could they possibly know that they were being served by such an over-rated talentless hack in the cockpit? No, I won't apologize. I read all the technical rationalizations above. This isn't hindsight. This is business. How about some respect for the cargo? I get no hint that they had any concern for that. Since there really is no way to know whoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-3350548569404343002023-04-14T12:41:58.986-04:002023-04-14T12:41:58.986-04:00After reading the CVR transcript, contrary to some...After reading the CVR transcript, contrary to some of the previous comments I think the PF (Eduardo) was being more calculated and standard than the PM. It seems to me that the PF had some reservations about the 20 approach and was definitely behind because of the change, and the PM was pushy throughout. PF should have put on the brakes and said I’m not comfortable so let’s go somewhere safe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30700244112750762422023-04-13T03:53:57.226-04:002023-04-13T03:53:57.226-04:00Alberto was the PIC. Alberto was the PIC. Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-77121946724331631982023-01-15T12:24:17.398-05:002023-01-15T12:24:17.398-05:00Kobe also thought he had a professional up front. ...Kobe also thought he had a professional up front. This is why Part 91 (or poorly-managed '135) is so dangerous: the CEO decides what is safe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-38204604111618527672023-01-08T11:37:55.263-05:002023-01-08T11:37:55.263-05:00Bedford, MA, that killed 7, and Teterboro, that ki...Bedford, MA, that killed 7, and Teterboro, that killed 2... both also due to lack of professionalism and basic respect for things that student pilots learn in their first few hours i.e checklists and professionalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-74050909833310537712023-01-07T21:40:41.147-05:002023-01-07T21:40:41.147-05:00i got the impression these guys are the type who d...i got the impression these guys are the type who did not get "airspeed and the ball are the most important things on landing in the turn" lesson from anyone and were staring at the numbers in those last moments before that stick pusher went off. Glider pilots dont seem to have this issue of airspeed mismanagement, maybe we start a dialog that all new pilots get glider training first Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35056553546831863252023-01-07T17:35:14.949-05:002023-01-07T17:35:14.949-05:00Just read the entire CVR transcript. These two pil...Just read the entire CVR transcript. These two pilots had no business sitting up front with passengers in the back. Unprofessional doesn't come close to describing the complete lack of discipline and SA these two displayed. Just WOW. What scares me is that I am out there flying around with 230 folks sitting behind me and there are more than likely dangerous dolts like these in the same Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-72710105636276184252022-10-07T21:52:18.878-04:002022-10-07T21:52:18.878-04:00Reading the CVR it looks like one of the pilots tu...Reading the CVR it looks like one of the pilots turned off the autothrottles... resulting in a speed decay at the worst possible moment. The other seems to have realized it too late and attempted to correct but at this point even a go around might have been doomed with the latency in spooling up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-44271987419488035442022-09-18T17:41:23.014-04:002022-09-18T17:41:23.014-04:00Wow. Reads like chaos in the cockpit.Wow. Reads like chaos in the cockpit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-66412252468655537242022-09-09T19:55:47.572-04:002022-09-09T19:55:47.572-04:00PIC never listened to the SIC and you know the res...PIC never listened to the SIC and you know the rest. IMO he's why they are in the ground. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75631692363321553762022-08-10T21:42:47.423-04:002022-08-10T21:42:47.423-04:00Totally agree with you. That was Bret everyday. Kn...Totally agree with you. That was Bret everyday. Known and flown with him for 15 years. Class act and a great pilot. Unfortunately I have ready the transcripts and Bret was dealing with a guy in my opinion in the left seat that was incapable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-54734814852245223792022-08-06T17:01:45.496-04:002022-08-06T17:01:45.496-04:00Certainly a wake up call for an SMS that is tighte...Certainly a wake up call for an SMS that is tighter. Here it was a Part 91 so they didn't need to have anything at all but one can see the cone of possibilities narrowing the second they decided to switch to the longer runway in VFR. It's like going into the event horizon of a black hole... you cross it and don't feel a thing but that's it, no return. Frankly if they needed to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-8819521864127718432022-08-02T19:25:18.988-04:002022-08-02T19:25:18.988-04:00A lot of non standard chatter in the cockpit, no S...A lot of non standard chatter in the cockpit, no SOP evidently and a lot of confusion !Raffleshttp://www.iflyerz.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-43274125535481619682022-08-01T20:14:40.144-04:002022-08-01T20:14:40.144-04:00Agreed but the US legal tort system doesn't th...Agreed but the US legal tort system doesn't think in terms of common sense but rather rent-seeking for $$$<br />https://www.rapp.org/archives/2015/11/tragic/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-88486447869215919972022-08-01T15:22:52.356-04:002022-08-01T15:22:52.356-04:00Transcript from cockpit: https://data.ntsb.gov/Doc...Transcript from cockpit: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=14037454&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=WPR21FA286%20CVR_Release-Rel.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30933165674328721282022-08-01T15:20:46.919-04:002022-08-01T15:20:46.919-04:00When you put a plane in a dive then attempt a pull...When you put a plane in a dive then attempt a pull out, no stall protection can help. It got flown into the groundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-5449711463206238322022-08-01T14:49:57.377-04:002022-08-01T14:49:57.377-04:00Cockpit transcript Um, Um. https://data.ntsb.gov...Cockpit transcript Um, Um. https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=14037454&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=WPR21FA286%20CVR_Release-Rel.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-63547834184456565862022-07-25T22:06:35.102-04:002022-07-25T22:06:35.102-04:00So after reading the extensive NTSB docket everyth...So after reading the extensive NTSB docket everything becomes clear:<br />1) The CL605 needs to use "artificial means" of stall warning in order to be certified as Part 25 transport airplane, given its wing profile results in an abrupt and rolling stall. It is all legal and per certification process.<br />2) The stall warnings were activated as intended and the stock pusher was even Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-16937656166590041352022-07-24T21:38:05.381-04:002022-07-24T21:38:05.381-04:008000+ density altitude when they listened to the A...8000+ density altitude when they listened to the AWOS. That says it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30692525388752339102022-07-24T21:18:21.729-04:002022-07-24T21:18:21.729-04:00Wanna bet Bombardier is gonna get sued for not mak...Wanna bet Bombardier is gonna get sued for not making the stall "IDIOT PROOF" enough? As always ridiculous since the root cause is the decision to continue an unstabilized approach but per legal rent-seeking lobbying the "strict" liability doctrine means a manufacturer has to account for every single damn permutation i.e O(N!) of possibilities of their products being misused. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26574631242222873412022-07-24T19:56:11.452-04:002022-07-24T19:56:11.452-04:00Docket #31.Docket #31.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com