tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post5808284944231271812..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Pilatus PC-12/47E, N79NX: Fatal accident occurred February 13, 2022 in Beaufort, Carteret County, North CarolinaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger176125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83374746709332044682023-01-10T10:40:10.067-05:002023-01-10T10:40:10.067-05:00prolly a bird. karma got back at them... would wri...prolly a bird. karma got back at them... would write lol but im not the type raving on deaths... unlike themKrisztiánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11898256033523876897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-20210986935774130672023-01-10T10:37:49.993-05:002023-01-10T10:37:49.993-05:00imagine karma hitting you so bad... shooting "...imagine karma hitting you so bad... shooting "birds in the face" and raving on them falling out of the sky then falling out yourself... shooting azt birds especially migrating is the lowest of the low. dsgtn syko family. Krisztiánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11898256033523876897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-50521024761937012072022-11-14T21:10:34.015-05:002022-11-14T21:10:34.015-05:00I thought they were suing the pilot's company,...I thought they were suing the pilot's company, not the owner.???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-17140744906234827202022-09-27T10:25:04.345-04:002022-09-27T10:25:04.345-04:00After completing training at the big school and pa...After completing training at the big school and passing the checkride in the NG I have decided that I won’t ever fly one. I’m 63 and have been flying my entire life, the Apex system is capable but complex and it would take me a very long time to get comfortable with it. Fortunately I work for a big company which has a lot of legacy PC12s and King Airs so there is no pressure for me to switch Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-44138838024147502112022-09-19T20:02:37.101-04:002022-09-19T20:02:37.101-04:00No good deed goes unpunished ! Don’t give free rid...No good deed goes unpunished ! Don’t give free rides unless you are willing to be sued !<br /><br />Even though owner of plane also killed and was boyfriend for maybe 10 years to female passenger, the killed girlfriend’s family is suing boyfriend’s company and probably his personal estate ! <br /><br />Wonder why plane owner never married his girlfriend in 10 years of happy companionship Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-59637725507794501992022-09-10T12:06:21.100-04:002022-09-10T12:06:21.100-04:00I currently fly and have over 1500 hours in a PC12...I currently fly and have over 1500 hours in a PC12/45, am retired from flying as Capt. on a MD11 for 23 years, 35 years with the company. Last year I went to training for the NGX, which like the MD11 uses a Honeywell product. The lack of quality and understandable training materials that are useful is a disgrace.<br /><br />In my opinion the industry, namely Honeywell, could not have designed a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-15797361400038629152022-09-09T19:37:00.082-04:002022-09-09T19:37:00.082-04:00I have several years and roughly 600 hours flying ...I have several years and roughly 600 hours flying ‘legacy’ PC-12s, I’m in training at a big school now to transition to the NG and it’s hard! The airplane is a pussycat and I’d be comfortable flying it VFR but it’s going to be a while before I’m comfortable in IFR. The Apex system is very capable but the learning curve is steep and there don’t seem to be any desktop trainers out there to practiceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-38684420100172452882022-05-22T08:46:24.034-04:002022-05-22T08:46:24.034-04:00The comments on special issue medical need a littl...The comments on special issue medical need a little clarification. I’m a retires 121 captain with glaucoma . I have a first class medical but only good for one year as I must show my pressure is under control. One comment said he was a cancer survivor. Tragic accident wish they had declared a mayday and got talked down Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-86653833237735145422022-04-24T10:08:58.008-04:002022-04-24T10:08:58.008-04:00I have 2500 hrs. in the PC12NG and there is absolu...I have 2500 hrs. in the PC12NG and there is absolutely no issues with hand flying with or without PX's as one would be flying with reference to the Flight director and it is good practice. This guy was caught by something that caught him out like a stuck trim relay in the up position. We will have to wait for the CVR data. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-89798445277360006712022-04-13T11:29:15.616-04:002022-04-13T11:29:15.616-04:00Not sure what you mean when you say "inapprop...Not sure what you mean when you say "inappropriate to hand fly the airplane with passengers". Is it an issue of smoothness, control, difficulty, workload, or maybe a safety issue? I'm not criticizing your comment, but it needs more explanation so that we non-PC12 pilots can better understand what might have happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82676887512138706402022-04-05T12:22:44.131-04:002022-04-05T12:22:44.131-04:00Except we have a stick shake and pusher that would...Except we have a stick shake and pusher that would not have allowed that to happen. Heidi Hoythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04725651852635597361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-88076941405756992112022-04-05T12:14:42.964-04:002022-04-05T12:14:42.964-04:00I have 4,000 hours in PC12 #101. It is inappropria...I have 4,000 hours in PC12 #101. It is inappropriate to hand fly the airplane with passengers on board in IMC. In fact, we are trained to use the autopilot above 1,000 AGL. It is clear from his panicked transmissions that he was flying. He might have let the kid try it but when it hit the skids he certainly would have assumed control. Only takes one push of a button to hand it over to "Heidi Hoythttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04725651852635597361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-12006358311279516312022-03-27T23:54:08.208-04:002022-03-27T23:54:08.208-04:00get the cg program and see for yourself. aft cg st...get the cg program and see for yourself. aft cg stall is a universal concern, not just on a pc12. stall is a direct function of angle of attack, period. If a pilot is aimlessly lost, not able to navigate, how well would anyone expect that pilot is controlling airspeed, angle of attack, altitude, angle of bank? A pilot who stalls and crashes after being lost for a period of time has still died Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-79013236763329296982022-03-22T18:18:25.036-04:002022-03-22T18:18:25.036-04:00Marc,
You sound like the old crash investigations ...Marc,<br />You sound like the old crash investigations where nearly everything was pilot error. Firstly, google "REASON model". Secondly, that's a pretty silly blanket statement. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06646884564343103660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-60679466852191696002022-03-22T18:13:04.115-04:002022-03-22T18:13:04.115-04:00@Texas Flyer Not sure that turning around and exit...@Texas Flyer Not sure that turning around and exiting a restricted area in all circumstances is a rookie mistake. As a retired military pilot, I reckon that's exactly what you should do if you enter an active bombing range :)<br /><br />Range Control is meant to monitor that before clearing live, but mistakes happen. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06646884564343103660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-72826785151399234782022-03-22T18:05:02.402-04:002022-03-22T18:05:02.402-04:00Marc - one thing you may be forgetting is that Coc...Marc - one thing you may be forgetting is that Cockpit Resource Management in an emergency can include people outside of the cockpit. Sometimes communicating aids in the Aviate or Navigate bits. ;) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06646884564343103660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-62315960335141185412022-03-22T17:48:30.608-04:002022-03-22T17:48:30.608-04:00I agree. I was a C-130J pilot (HUD, advanced aviat...I agree. I was a C-130J pilot (HUD, advanced aviations, awesome weather radar, advanced autopilot, autothrottles, etc.)<br /><br />My thoughts, if the aircraft automation starts making the plane do something you don't want, disengage the automation, hand fly and then sort out the technology.<br /><br />Also agree regarding recency. Someone commented about advanced aircraft being more Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06646884564343103660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-91396546430933467912022-03-13T20:02:58.387-04:002022-03-13T20:02:58.387-04:00DG = Explicit racial biasDG = Explicit racial biasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34628846481536027462022-03-13T08:17:22.750-04:002022-03-13T08:17:22.750-04:00Thanks for the reminder Dan. I'll remember not...Thanks for the reminder Dan. I'll remember not to "link out" to your crap channel so you WILL NOT profit from the misfortunes of these unfortunate victims.<br /><br />Dans' philosophy on accidents/incidents is there are 3 sides to every event. Yours, the NTSB (actual factual analysis), and, the correct one MINE.<br /><br />DTSB = Dan Totally Spews Bullshit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-56540120884135883492022-03-12T16:07:16.001-05:002022-03-12T16:07:16.001-05:00@MarcPilot - Maybe it doesn't matter to you th...@MarcPilot - Maybe it doesn't matter to you that Gryder won't take down his false assertion that the student pilot was sitting left seat in Pilatus N79NX now that the NTSB preliminary report specifically stated as-found seating positions that completely invalidates the Gryder speculation.<br /><br />That example is proof that there is no concern by Gryder or yourself for how family Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-22581881721141060572022-03-12T07:10:51.724-05:002022-03-12T07:10:51.724-05:00Gryder is profoundly arrogant, narcissistic and se...Gryder is profoundly arrogant, narcissistic and selfish. I have personally interviewed many victims of aircraft accidents. Family members are demoralized by what is happening to them with Gryders' exploitation. It is a demoralizing experience. And sometimes its the worst experience anyone can ever go through their entire life. Gryder has incorrect information on many of his videos and it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-61842566144360349662022-03-12T06:37:40.627-05:002022-03-12T06:37:40.627-05:00There is a reason most professional pilots think G...There is a reason most professional pilots think Gryder is garbage. It’s because he is! He is a hack who lives to Monday morning quarterback and the only people who find him insightful do so because they don’t know the difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70138984802216847042022-03-11T23:43:16.360-05:002022-03-11T23:43:16.360-05:00Gryder clearly was working with what he had at the...Gryder clearly was working with what he had at the time. This video predates the NTSB report most obviously or the narrative would have changed quite a bit. The seat arrangement isn't important to me, rather the fact they were doing a scenic flight to the South around the restricted airspace is quite the eye opener.<br />Frankly the decision to not fly IFR in marginal weather when he had the MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-48193778748233029742022-03-11T08:24:28.625-05:002022-03-11T08:24:28.625-05:00@Marcpilot - Do you actually believe that the NTSB...@Marcpilot - Do you actually believe that the NTSB reported incorrect as-found seated positions for N79NX and that Gryder has "better information" that contradicts those reported positions?<br /><br />You say his reasoning is logical, but you don't notice that he bases his speculation on clearly disproven seating positions. Same problem as you not being aware of the installed LDR inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82997175050366758512022-03-10T19:48:06.082-05:002022-03-10T19:48:06.082-05:00I listened to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj...I listened to:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcWbBPokgs<br /><br />And his reasoning is logical and impassionate. Frankly he also warns this is based on the info he has at the time.<br /><br />99% of accidents are pilot error... and most of the time it has to be GROSS mismanagement or careless and recklessness, like at Addison TX where the 71 year old captain had no CRM to speak of,MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.com