tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post5074170510250945690..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: CSA PiperSport, N126WK: Fatal accident occurred September 08, 2022 at Santa Monica Airport (KSMO), Los Angeles County, CaliforniaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger211125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-13974903120493515032023-12-19T00:06:48.462-05:002023-12-19T00:06:48.462-05:00To me it was SUICIDE. The dude was suicidal saw, s...To me it was SUICIDE. The dude was suicidal saw, so the opportunity and pursued it. Killed him and the other was collateral damage. So, not much the PIC could have done in such a case other than karete chopp to the adams apple to make the dude let go. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-42559307237942939112023-12-18T23:59:06.880-05:002023-12-18T23:59:06.880-05:00The passenger may have been suicidal. Not much to ...The passenger may have been suicidal. Not much to do there as a CFI. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-85891311423629930032023-12-18T23:52:09.333-05:002023-12-18T23:52:09.333-05:00Maybe the passenger (cause he was not a student pi...Maybe the passenger (cause he was not a student pilot) was suicidal and did it on purpose. It has happend before. I have that feeling. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70171888786190306212023-08-24T18:20:09.474-04:002023-08-24T18:20:09.474-04:00I knew Jackson and he had a very kind soul and was...I knew Jackson and he had a very kind soul and was very creative. But he was very clumsy and aloof like a child. Freaking out and pulling back on the controls during a plane landing is totally something he would do. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82172621903715046632022-12-25T10:24:42.179-05:002022-12-25T10:24:42.179-05:00I suspect its possible, though probably improbable...I suspect its possible, though probably improbable, the student may have been committing a planned suicide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-80173186845420864442022-12-23T18:53:01.139-05:002022-12-23T18:53:01.139-05:00Seeing the burned bodies in the photos is a bit sh...Seeing the burned bodies in the photos is a bit shocking :-/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-52403607527076633952022-12-02T02:28:52.690-05:002022-12-02T02:28:52.690-05:00Have there been any updates on this?Have there been any updates on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-80218789303638177142022-11-30T23:55:17.433-05:002022-11-30T23:55:17.433-05:00Did you know that Idiot student's GoFundMe rai...Did you know that Idiot student's GoFundMe raised 24K? Should go to the CFI's family. Moron.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-857837048548399012022-11-27T15:03:59.913-05:002022-11-27T15:03:59.913-05:00Jackson NazarioJackson NazarioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-59474824041466220262022-10-28T00:45:17.791-04:002022-10-28T00:45:17.791-04:00Christian, your son, was truly a beautiful person....Christian, your son, was truly a beautiful person. Deeply intelligent and curious in every way. Every flight and conversation with him was, and will be, vividly memorable. Sorry for your loss and thought are with you through the heavy processing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-21949284518520208972022-10-25T22:06:29.426-04:002022-10-25T22:06:29.426-04:00>>could be a bird scare system
There is no ...>>could be a bird scare system<br /><br />There is no bird scare system at KSMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-28307092411499923952022-10-16T14:49:55.548-04:002022-10-16T14:49:55.548-04:00King Air wake turbulence makes landing aircraft pi...King Air wake turbulence makes landing aircraft pitch up and climb to a stall. This is confirmed by the CFI screaming for the student to let go of the controls. It all makes sense now.<br /><br />Don't know about the rest of you, but I come to here for this type of highly-informed discussion with experienced aviation professionals. The racist comments about unfortunate crash victims and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-12696443830527000062022-10-12T10:04:57.787-04:002022-10-12T10:04:57.787-04:00I had a student I was checking out in a Citabria t...I had a student I was checking out in a Citabria that locked up on the controls. I told him "let go" but he didn't so I hit him in the back of the head. Got control back and landed. I apologized to the student and never saw him again. Nor would I have flown with him even if I did see him.av8rdavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09316918466230659392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82807038739831514292022-10-12T05:39:11.695-04:002022-10-12T05:39:11.695-04:00Isn't this the same type of situation that occ...Isn't this the same type of situation that occurred a few weeks ago that has had everyone so upset? A young person dies unnecessarily (could have been avoided). I say again, students on a Discovery flight should NOT touch the controls or be put in the pilot's seat. Just enjoy the view and make sure that you are not someone who panics. <br /><br />CSA PiperSport, N126WK: Fatal accident Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-1068646207423237242022-10-12T03:43:04.482-04:002022-10-12T03:43:04.482-04:00Very unlikely to be wake turbulence. The LSA'...Very unlikely to be wake turbulence. The LSA's impact point was well before the rotation point of the King Air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-50694445834134352612022-10-09T22:15:35.020-04:002022-10-09T22:15:35.020-04:00Landing behind a departing aircraft you would touc...Landing behind a departing aircraft you would touchdown prior to their rotation point for wake avoidance. I would be very surprised if this was a factor as a King Air would have been pretty far down the runway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-9001436482936661232022-10-09T19:05:59.867-04:002022-10-09T19:05:59.867-04:00King Air N123HG's takeoff with N126WK incoming...King Air N123HG's takeoff with N126WK incoming can be seen together in motion using the replay link below. After page load, hit pause at bottom left, reduce speed from 30x, hit play. Hover over aircraft to identify:<br /><br />https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2022-09-08-23:24&lat=34.010&lon=-118.477&zoom=13.3<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-44718946849816171152022-10-09T11:29:35.921-04:002022-10-09T11:29:35.921-04:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv0ka5k5xW8
Indee...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv0ka5k5xW8<br /><br />Indeed the wake turbulence of the King Air may have been a factor on a plane which cannot exceed 1320 lb fully loaded.<br />LSA aircrafts have very little weight loading...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-86349170212596096272022-10-09T04:16:05.530-04:002022-10-09T04:16:05.530-04:00Noticeably absent in the report is any mention of ...Noticeably absent in the report is any mention of the King Air that departed right before the accident sequence suggesting the initial investigation is not linking wake turbulence to the accident. Also, the report seems to unequivocally say that the instructor is the one heard yelling "let go" several times.<br /><br />Did the hard landing precipitate an attempted go around sequence by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-13075272872415743932022-10-09T03:49:41.188-04:002022-10-09T03:49:41.188-04:00Preliminary report released (WPR22FA338)
https://d...Preliminary report released (WPR22FA338)<br />https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/105890/pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-39028490314361611762022-10-09T01:43:25.749-04:002022-10-09T01:43:25.749-04:00I'm so sorry for your loss. Your son was truly...I'm so sorry for your loss. Your son was truly a gem of a human. Full of life, bright and kind in a way that is very rare in this world. It's a horrible thing that happened to a wonderful person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-85555543635709272402022-10-08T05:13:21.029-04:002022-10-08T05:13:21.029-04:00It is indeed a horrible thing to say. However, the...It is indeed a horrible thing to say. However, the cause of death is almost certainly blunt impact trauma. They would most likely have died or have been unconscious and seriously injured before the ensuing fire. There is a lesser chance of being badly injured and conscious, though it could be possible though somewhat unlikely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-69056639786840940572022-10-07T18:22:56.873-04:002022-10-07T18:22:56.873-04:00Wow that let go x3 says it all! So sad indeed…Wow that let go x3 says it all! So sad indeed…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-64405013100883773892022-10-07T14:51:32.968-04:002022-10-07T14:51:32.968-04:00What a horrible thing to say. I don't think an...What a horrible thing to say. I don't think anyone deserves to burn alive in a plane crash.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-90663424825986283332022-10-04T20:21:40.986-04:002022-10-04T20:21:40.986-04:00Stupid student, he deserved his fate. It's a ...Stupid student, he deserved his fate. It's a shame he murdered the other nice guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com