tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post4884311830482807849..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Loss of Control in Flight: Cessna 172R Skyhawk, N994CP; fatal accident occurred July 06, 2019 near University-Oxford Airport (KUOX), Lafayette County, MississippiUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger148125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-64692838649419009882022-06-07T09:00:56.183-04:002022-06-07T09:00:56.183-04:00Except it was found in the end that the blockage i...Except it was found in the end that the blockage in the exhaust valve for cylinder 4 was caused post-crash by molten aluminum flowing in the open valve area.<br /><br />From the final report:<br />The engine exhibited a thumb compression at three cylinders when the crankshaft was rotated. All rocker covers were removed, and all valve train components moved accordingly when the crankshaft was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83294763097142488992021-07-24T05:33:45.059-04:002021-07-24T05:33:45.059-04:00David, It would help us if the Common frequency ta...David, It would help us if the Common frequency tapes are released so that we can hear what went on in the cockpit with your daughter. you have a lot of experts out here that could shed some light on this. Allow them to release the tapes.Marthas_Vineyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16068055319616067426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75652049561570627942021-07-23T23:00:02.526-04:002021-07-23T23:00:02.526-04:00i think her injuries or "horrible injuries&qu...i think her injuries or "horrible injuries" as you described, were probably immediately debilitating to the point where she wouldn't have been conscience, alive yes, but not really. The coroner said "multiple blunt force trauma", the newspapers said she suffered serious burns. If you look at the crash site it looks like the engine crushed into the cockpit or folded belowMarthas_Vineyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16068055319616067426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-9621874439339289092021-07-23T22:44:19.603-04:002021-07-23T22:44:19.603-04:00She wrote the bio for a student competition entry ...She wrote the bio for a student competition entry in anticipation of getting her PPL soon. She was scheduled for a Check-Ride after her cross-country solo was signed off on by her instructor.Marthas_Vineyardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16068055319616067426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30352635235368759822021-07-23T22:36:47.542-04:002021-07-23T22:36:47.542-04:00flaps are not needed on take-off in a 172. Without...flaps are not needed on take-off in a 172. Without looking at the data, it is possible that in certain conditions, taking off with flaps 10 will get you off the ground quicker, but will actually take longer to reach 50ft compared to a takeoff with no flaps. In any case, retracting flaps in a busy time after takeoff is a potential hazard, and in a training aircraft like the 172 simple procedures Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-796253916010673872020-12-10T12:21:28.626-05:002020-12-10T12:21:28.626-05:00The final NTSB report has been released. The Natio...The final NTSB report has been released. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:The student pilot's failure to maintain airplane control during a go around with a tailwind, which resulted in an uncontrolled descent and impact with terrain.robertcall3https://www.blogger.com/profile/05778779587266434865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-15637406406554639712020-12-02T18:54:07.300-05:002020-12-02T18:54:07.300-05:00"A consideration. Mechanical or human, that s..."A consideration. Mechanical or human, that should be the focus, not, "is she pretty" (for Mississippi, perhaps) irrelevant."<br /><br />Are you seriously implying that only those from the South make comments like that or think that way? I see plenty on social media and blogs from those from New York to California ogling over young pretty females in news stories. Look in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-63003833763241051862020-11-30T08:06:51.342-05:002020-11-30T08:06:51.342-05:00It's troubling to see comment sections like th...It's troubling to see comment sections like this on a relatively professional website about airplane accidents. How she looks should be irrelevant and to be honest some of you need to raise your standards. She could probably be most of yours daughter. I agree the "beauty pageant" is a vacuous comment in a sadly vacuous age and perhaps she too was vacuous herself... in the end that Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06370646322329032930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-66903990871836164732020-09-20T11:10:23.478-04:002020-09-20T11:10:23.478-04:00All you guys complaining about "touch and goe...All you guys complaining about "touch and goes" obviously didn't read the initial report very closely. It said she was attempting to land, never touched the runway and abeam midfield increased power and began to climb. That is an aborted landing, not a touch and go. At least give her credit for recognizing that she was running out of runway. Yeah, she made some mistakes after Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049615810256304919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-49481240323329879962020-03-11T18:29:17.993-04:002020-03-11T18:29:17.993-04:00She was burnt alive and ended up the quite opposit...She was burnt alive and ended up the quite opposite of beautiful in her last agonizing moments. I agree with your first part this was a tragedy of highest proportions and she probably did not have time to practice or just think about flying in between glamour shots. The CAP idiots who "trained" her should be held responsible for their role in the charade. R.I.P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75220047754781579412020-02-04T08:09:27.820-05:002020-02-04T08:09:27.820-05:00Wind at 310 degrees at 11 knots. And she is landin...Wind at 310 degrees at 11 knots. And she is landing on runway 9, not runway 27. ??? Those CAP dorks signed this woman off for a solo cross country, and she could not enter a traffic pattern properly. Sorry guys, some people are not cut out to fly, no matter how much they want it. The CAP, with their phony ranks and uniforms set this girl up to fail. Sad reality. TomWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13205195749139493553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-16135880811429689202020-01-26T00:19:01.686-05:002020-01-26T00:19:01.686-05:00Responding to the question from Anonymous: On Fli...Responding to the question from Anonymous: On FlightAware https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CAP2294/history/20190706/1903ZZ/KGTR/KUOX<br />you can run the time-slider along the blue altitude/speed strip at the bottom of the map so it moves forward in time and shows exact speeds and altitudes. If you have your FlightAware options set up to view knots instead of miles per hour, you see a very Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00315252438497964017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-51007829062264927542020-01-21T14:07:28.432-05:002020-01-21T14:07:28.432-05:00"On climbout, at (FlightAware altitude) 2,500..."On climbout, at (FlightAware altitude) 2,500 feet, #4 cylinder stops generating power, because something stuck under a valve is preventing compression." What is this theory based on? Do you realize that Flight Aware shows groundspeed? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82261435194146982032020-01-12T19:01:20.474-05:002020-01-12T19:01:20.474-05:00She was a pretty girl who was involved in many act...She was a pretty girl who was involved in many activities, like the charities and beauty pageants. All of it would have given her less time to learn vital skills, and would have been a distraction. She had just grad high school with excellent grades. She was taking on too much. When you have a super achiever beautiful pageant girl, they get constant accolades, which CAN lead to over confidence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-59221168120475129032020-01-12T06:46:01.051-05:002020-01-12T06:46:01.051-05:00Fully agree with your Statement above. My CFI, tha...Fully agree with your Statement above. My CFI, thats now fifty years ago, just did let me go for my first Soloflight after he was sure that I can handle it and I was always in Radiocontact with him in case of troubles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-3677732010163808572020-01-10T14:20:30.852-05:002020-01-10T14:20:30.852-05:00If you are not completely proficient at doing t&am...If you are not completely proficient at doing t&g's, than you have "NO Business" soloing the airplane. <br /><br />A C-172 is a hand full on final,{for a student} when applying flaps, there needs to be substantial trim adjustment to be able to handle the pressure on the yolk. On a T&G the airplane, is sensitive in pitch as you apply and retract the flaps. My point is that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-37253180221143645432020-01-10T12:06:30.022-05:002020-01-10T12:06:30.022-05:00If you are not completely proficient at doing t&am...If you are not completely proficient at doing t&g's, than you have "NO Business" soloing the airplane. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-50978715539391636572020-01-09T07:59:58.847-05:002020-01-09T07:59:58.847-05:00Good post...I totally agree that prior to ANY solo...Good post...I totally agree that prior to ANY solo, a student should demonstrate proficiency at aborting a landing and executing a go round from all phases of the landing. My instructor owned his own 2600 ft runway with lots of trees directly located on both ends. We had a municipal airport with a long, paved runway with no obstructions about 4 miles away. He would not take his students there Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-56246132841766340092020-01-08T06:24:12.465-05:002020-01-08T06:24:12.465-05:00That sounds pretty reasonable to me too, that situ...That sounds pretty reasonable to me too, that situation would scare me too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35243003894866422482020-01-08T02:58:38.754-05:002020-01-08T02:58:38.754-05:00Based on the flight track on FlightAware at https:...Based on the flight track on FlightAware at https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CAP2294/history/20190706/1903ZZ/KGTR/KUOX and based on the history so far, this may have been what happened:<br />1) The student pilot waits with her instructor for a line of thunderstorms to pass through her home airport, KGTR. As soon as they pass to the southeast, her instructor clears her for her solo Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00315252438497964017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-58430155218716540142020-01-04T11:34:01.397-05:002020-01-04T11:34:01.397-05:00GPS equipped Aircraft, RWY09 equipped with Localiz...GPS equipped Aircraft, RWY09 equipped with Localizer, Pilot not aware of current Position, Student Pilot with 69 hours flight time, that rises a lot of questions. Good Looking Woman does not always mean a Good Woman Pilot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-56962597715261343242019-10-24T01:03:39.454-04:002019-10-24T01:03:39.454-04:00So sad to read of such a promising young persons l...So sad to read of such a promising young persons life coming to such a premature end while engaging in an activity we all love. May God bless her soul. <br /><br />RIP and condolences to the family.Chilihead98https://www.blogger.com/profile/10010555401247053659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-6192070220047159992019-09-28T12:54:10.097-04:002019-09-28T12:54:10.097-04:00Wow it seems the first people to get to the crash ...Wow it seems the first people to get to the crash could not get her out because of a seat belt then a fire started she was burned. She probably would have walked away if it wasn't for that seat belt. I always carry a folding knife on my belt just in case I need to cut something like a seat belt. Sad to think a seat belt saved her life also took it.Mike-Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252696519545321781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-91933473222778352882019-08-21T21:04:39.659-04:002019-08-21T21:04:39.659-04:00^^^ Well said.^^^ Well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34890273268687322252019-08-20T08:23:34.578-04:002019-08-20T08:23:34.578-04:00If we sugar coat Ms. Little's "achievemen...If we sugar coat Ms. Little's "achievements" then we validate the sub-par training she got and most likely an inability to fly an airplane.<br /><br />The later is absolutely A-OK since most of the population at large is not qualified nor able to fly an aircraft due to a variety of circumstances, inherent genetic predispositions or health issues, etc...<br /><br />What is not OK is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com