tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post4601536940054938582..comments2024-03-28T21:15:11.065-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Robinson R44 Cadet, N514CD: Fatal accident occurred March 25, 2022 in Rowlett, Dallas County, TexasUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-69567516901548910452024-03-21T14:32:46.281-04:002024-03-21T14:32:46.281-04:00Who is Mr anonymous? Too many people on these web...Who is Mr anonymous? Too many people on these websites talk about stuff as if the are either experts or experienced. <br /><br />After flying both fixed wing and helicopters for over 40 years I can say that most accidents are pilot error. A fraction are mechanical, but even mechanical errors can be further compromised by pilot error due to lack of proper training. <br />Most Robinson accidents Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-43959649780165756652023-12-16T07:25:12.091-05:002023-12-16T07:25:12.091-05:00I agree with this. Personal due diligence needs to...I agree with this. Personal due diligence needs to be encouraged more. Always.<br />It is rare for a person to have too much!whatsgoingonherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170726287875601498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-39884778102576467162023-12-16T07:21:21.016-05:002023-12-16T07:21:21.016-05:00Yeah, but how close to "Push forward and die&...Yeah, but how close to "Push forward and die" are we-relative to these other placards you speak of?whatsgoingonherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170726287875601498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-13092751712822398512023-12-16T05:06:11.553-05:002023-12-16T05:06:11.553-05:00I think the main rotor chopping off the tail boom,...I think the main rotor chopping off the tail boom, and then chopping off that other, even thicker piece next may have killed the engine.whatsgoingonherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00170726287875601498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83745875799974749392023-12-15T15:20:32.198-05:002023-12-15T15:20:32.198-05:00indeed it is a very tight envelope, and totally un...indeed it is a very tight envelope, and totally unforgiving of any small deviation thereofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-48709147133733653842023-03-25T03:03:45.954-04:002023-03-25T03:03:45.954-04:00Video of final seconds prior to impact....engine i...Video of final seconds prior to impact....engine is silent, only the rush of air can be heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-66282120375571325482023-01-01T23:15:23.460-05:002023-01-01T23:15:23.460-05:00Crankshaft breaks on an fixed wing, just hit best ...Crankshaft breaks on an fixed wing, just hit best L/D. In a helicopter, put your knees around your head - "auto rotate" ain't gonna save a beer can when it drops like a rock. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34163676766312047012023-01-01T23:12:04.072-05:002023-01-01T23:12:04.072-05:00My lifelong advice to all aviators, "Never ge...My lifelong advice to all aviators, "Never get in or near a running helicopter." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-87406485909432119352022-12-27T14:48:58.449-05:002022-12-27T14:48:58.449-05:00Rotor divergence, cuts off the tail boom, 30+ Robi...Rotor divergence, cuts off the tail boom, 30+ Robinson accidents due to this<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83038209191429981142022-12-27T11:45:40.602-05:002022-12-27T11:45:40.602-05:00Negative G simulation https://www.google.com/sea...Negative G simulation https://www.google.com/search?q=ROBINSON+R44+ROTOR+HITS+TAIL+BOOM&rlz=1C1GCEV_enUS955US955&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjG87eun5r8AhUMkWoFHSYhC5EQ_AUoA3oECAEQBQ&biw=1680&bih=939&dpr=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:25457e9e,vid:R3a4ytlKsoAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-25525577786085779552022-10-29T12:15:57.237-04:002022-10-29T12:15:57.237-04:00Got my ticket at TOA. I remember when Robinson fir...Got my ticket at TOA. I remember when Robinson first showed up. They always looked like toy helicopters to me, after being in HC1 det 6 where we flew Sikorsky H3's. Never cared for the heliocapeckers too much after working on them and coming to an understanding about the various flight characteristics of each. <br />It is too bad, I know we all get to dance with the reaper at some point, but Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30515935349575476422022-10-14T13:09:36.127-04:002022-10-14T13:09:36.127-04:00The vast majority of aircraft can suffer flight co...The vast majority of aircraft can suffer flight conditions outside there normal design limits without catastrophic results. The NTSB data base is full of the ones that can't. Robinson is the leader of no second chances. I would not get in a Robinson. I don't want them flying over my house either. ATP, A&P, IA. 44 years pilot and maintenance. If close calls counted we would all be deadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-84037835857656527842022-10-01T12:07:20.548-04:002022-10-01T12:07:20.548-04:00nothing as usual....typical report.."rotor di...nothing as usual....typical report.."rotor diverged from its normal plane of rotation striking the tailboom for undetermined reasons".....they keep saying the aircraft are being operated outside of their approved flight envelope....must be a pretty tight envelope...more than one experienced semi-rigid rotor helo pilot has been killed in one of these death trapsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-54652858727835475262022-09-23T18:21:14.034-04:002022-09-23T18:21:14.034-04:00Its pretty evident she didn't have very much t...Its pretty evident she didn't have very much time in an R22 and chopped off the tailrotor, doesn't take an Einstein to figure this one out. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-36728604453863866072022-09-14T23:05:47.734-04:002022-09-14T23:05:47.734-04:00Robinson's that are borne out of the same desi...Robinson's that are borne out of the same design should be grounded until this accident is figured out. There are too many absoultely qualified people commenting on this forum that know what they are doing and have the experience to tell everyone the God's awful truth. These sound like death traps. Get'em out of the sky until further testing is allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7705140060750885452022-09-10T05:50:44.178-04:002022-09-10T05:50:44.178-04:00The UK's most experienced (at the time) Robins...The UK's most experienced (at the time) Robinson instructor was killed in a Robinson performing a training manoeuvre with an experienced fixed-wing student pilot. In an engine failure (real or simulated) in a fixed-wing a/c, the nose of the a/c (when in the cruise or climb) must quickly be lowered to maintain glide speed. In a helicopter, the opposite is true. In a teetering-rotor helicopter Mr Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00202131425263637044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82541185848419110462022-09-01T18:32:43.940-04:002022-09-01T18:32:43.940-04:00269 series … THAT was a good trainer.269 series … THAT was a good trainer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7938062990051578362022-08-10T05:10:02.795-04:002022-08-10T05:10:02.795-04:00The R44 is not intended to be a trainer; just beca...The R44 is not intended to be a trainer; just because there are 2 seat models doesn't mean it's a trainer machine; 2 seat R44's are used in Australia for mustering and spraying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-54802380467509024462022-08-04T02:33:31.409-04:002022-08-04T02:33:31.409-04:00So for anyone wanting R22 and R44 out of the sky.....So for anyone wanting R22 and R44 out of the sky... what's your damn alternative for something "affordable" besides what could be construed as such by a millionaire or billionaire? At less than < 1 million $$$ it's the only brand new heli that costs that little. Relatively speaking.<br />And still countless safe hours for most who fly them and and aware of the limitations.<brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-58153649729712244442022-06-05T17:57:56.935-04:002022-06-05T17:57:56.935-04:00^^ The only reference to Irvine, Tx that is found ...^^ The only reference to Irvine, Tx that is found by ctrl-f searching the article and all comments before yours is in the header up top where the participating FSDO is mentioned:<br /><br />Additional Participating Entities:<br />Federal Aviation Administration / Flight Standards District Office; Irvine, Texas<br /><br />And that North Texas FSDO really is in Irvine, Tx:<br />https://www.faa.govAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-15866508210317550032022-06-05T11:53:47.703-04:002022-06-05T11:53:47.703-04:00According to data collected by the independent Avi...According to data collected by the independent Aviation Safety Network, the R44 has been in 95 accidents internationally since January 2015, resulting in 58 fatalities. Twenty per cent of those accidents, (making up three-quarters of the fatalities), were recorded as arising from unknown circumstances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-18870603499426368542022-06-05T11:48:37.988-04:002022-06-05T11:48:37.988-04:00There is a very informative article on the R44 on ...There is a very informative article on the R44 on KL from July 2017. In case anyone wants to learn more or refresh their memory it's at: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2017/07/family-challenge-robinson-helicopter.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-3074357071122770462022-06-05T02:34:22.974-04:002022-06-05T02:34:22.974-04:00My condolences to everyone. Especially a likely v...My condolences to everyone. Especially a likely very talented female flight instructor. Was the male student too “cocky”? Also, why is a camera (possibly a cellphone) recording and following so smoothly? Were the recorders made aware in advance? It sounds like a type of air cannon or gun was fired before separation of the helicopter. Look at the area where it crashed. Storage facilities Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-45032479907961436742022-05-29T19:14:33.143-04:002022-05-29T19:14:33.143-04:00Incompetent pilots are the problem. Staying off th...Incompetent pilots are the problem. Staying off the controls of any heli is the best course of action if you lack the skills or discipline to learn and understand the different control/response dynamics of that model.<br /><br />https://airfactsjournal.com/2019/01/whats-wrong-with-robinson-r44-pilots/<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-78869532829299952252022-05-28T23:34:46.859-04:002022-05-28T23:34:46.859-04:00The FAA is a beaurocratic monster.The FAA is a beaurocratic monster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com