tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post3977401963739836246..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cessna C340, N7022G: Fatal accident occurred October 11, 2021 in Santee, San Diego County, CaliforniaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger236125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-6104320388006260982023-07-14T16:18:21.495-04:002023-07-14T16:18:21.495-04:00"Circling approach is a VMC maneuver. You do ..."Circling approach is a VMC maneuver. You do not circle IMC. If you do not have the runway in site to circle, you go around. If he was VMC, he did not have to intercept the LOC." Right, that "circling" instruction immediately bothered me. I was actually momentarily confused just by reading it here, and if I had been flying, there would have been a time delay as I processed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-46719675419914405132023-07-14T15:47:03.928-04:002023-07-14T15:47:03.928-04:00Yep, on number 4. Not saying it is so in this cas...Yep, on number 4. Not saying it is so in this case, but when a solo pilot loses control in such an inexplicable manner, we grasp at any explanation to help us learn from this tragedy, but sometimes, and very rarely, it simply is natural causes as you point out, and unless the investigators turn up some valid mechanical failure, medical fact, or odd explanation in the flight track and other Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-6286836620990247702023-07-14T15:13:47.241-04:002023-07-14T15:13:47.241-04:00Reads like the 1970s. Welcome to the power of GPS...Reads like the 1970s. Welcome to the power of GPS navigation: when the airport heading matches the runway heading, you're on final. No VOR, NDB, or DME, the GPS gives the distance, ground speed, time to go, and heading readout, and if your altitude and distance fit your speed and descent rate for the proper glide slope, you will break out of the clouds right on target every time, no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-54367741109071877892023-07-14T00:08:27.828-04:002023-07-14T00:08:27.828-04:00"the controller broadcasted a weather update ..."the controller broadcasted a weather update for MYF and reported the visibility was 10 miles, ceiling 1,700 ft broken, overcast skies at 2,800 ft, and runway 23 was in use." I appreciate the crosswind issue if MYF relied on the nearby SEE observation (Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 12 knots / 17 knots, 200°), and that's why 23 was in use. However, the pilot specifically requested Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-45660612864037747282023-03-13T16:22:09.650-04:002023-03-13T16:22:09.650-04:00NTSB hasn't posted final results of this inves...NTSB hasn't posted final results of this investigation. I'll be interested to see if there was any medical cause of this, but I suspect they won't find anything. Anyone can get confused were all human.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-29471793638875880422023-03-12T15:13:25.089-04:002023-03-12T15:13:25.089-04:00Yes, they use combustion heaters that burn avgas. ...Yes, they use combustion heaters that burn avgas. The "combustion tubes" Crack, and supply you with CO just like most other aircraft will. There is an AD requiring testing of it, but I have seen it done wrong..it's not foolproof, and any cracks might just happen to start to matter right after the test...two years or 250 hours between tests...plenty of time for things to go bad. Lastyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05867696858712962108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-8941547467439429062022-02-14T23:48:49.642-05:002022-02-14T23:48:49.642-05:00Sounds like he mistook some elderly couples drivew...Sounds like he mistook some elderly couples driveway for a runway. Sure he realized he was in trouble when he discovered what appeared to be UPS cargo plane was actually a UPS delivery truck dropping off a box of Depends to this elderly couple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-51204126238863028382022-01-22T07:20:38.307-05:002022-01-22T07:20:38.307-05:00He was arrogant. He wouldn't apologize to fell...He was arrogant. He wouldn't apologize to fellow doctors or admit his mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-27633412534334305022021-11-07T22:51:16.810-05:002021-11-07T22:51:16.810-05:00Agreed. You can see by his radar track that his br...Agreed. You can see by his radar track that his brain was telling him to transition to 23, but he was never established on the localizer - and most likely hadn't even come close to breaking out. That gnawing feeling that he need to get in position for 23 and subsequent loss of situational awareness is what did him in. Joseph Szarmach Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11814835453843933405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-55246641329200560292021-11-02T16:56:04.118-04:002021-11-02T16:56:04.118-04:00Simplest explanation is easiest. SD followed by ta...Simplest explanation is easiest. SD followed by task saturation and options gradually limited. Circle Climb Confess if you get behind the plane is certainly the best option but he seemed way behind the airplane. No medical issue or mechanical problems just a piloting issue.MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-73586023798373773762021-11-02T06:48:50.367-04:002021-11-02T06:48:50.367-04:00The only ‘logical explanation’ I can think of is t...The only ‘logical explanation’ I can think of is that the pilot was human. Humans make mistakes. Hopefully more experienced pilots make fewer mistakes but, they are still human and make mistakes. The human factor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-87339256060662210182021-10-31T11:02:22.879-04:002021-10-31T11:02:22.879-04:00Any pilot suggesting this was because of the vacci...Any pilot suggesting this was because of the vaccine ought to go straight to HIMS for suspicion of intellectual disability. Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15478871466714699271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26240980638826122472021-10-28T21:40:35.816-04:002021-10-28T21:40:35.816-04:00From a purely legal perspective (Pilots/CFIs are a...From a purely legal perspective (Pilots/CFIs are also supposed to be lawyers, besides physicians, meteorologists, psychologists and mechanics) the fallout will be large: Several wounded, houses destroyed and an innocent bystander dead. The lawyers for the estate of Dr Das will certainly argue for a medical emergency whereas facts before this point to simply incompetence. Regardless the tort MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-55552303128577292612021-10-26T22:10:56.382-04:002021-10-26T22:10:56.382-04:00Bleed air and pressurization aside, which one of &...Bleed air and pressurization aside, which one of "all us yo-yos" doesn't seem to know the difference between carbon dioxide (CO2) and carbon monoxide (CO) ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-23256315101088325032021-10-26T11:10:19.656-04:002021-10-26T11:10:19.656-04:00I think you are the one over/under-thinking the si...I think you are the one over/under-thinking the situation.<br /><br />Those 'questions' that you propose are not what any sort of qualified pilot who understands the procedure asks. That is not "mere" confirmation, those are questions of a confused, overloaded pilot who doesn't know what to do or what is expected of him and, shortly afterward, crashed his plane.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-39703527354060243772021-10-25T23:04:41.782-04:002021-10-25T23:04:41.782-04:00Figure 1 in the preliminary report doesn't sho...Figure 1 in the preliminary report doesn't show flying through the course. It shows reaching a point of interception and then turning to a new track, followed by ADS-B altitude decreasing and his calling in for "VFR 23".<br /><br />After cancellation, the pilot turned the knobs and loaded the 3000', 3800' and 90° values in the FMS SEL in response to the controller's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-4123789506406163582021-10-25T18:38:57.083-04:002021-10-25T18:38:57.083-04:00Of course at this point all of our comments are pu...Of course at this point all of our comments are pure speculation. But one thing I noticed is that FlightAware indicated that on all of his previous flights he might have been flying using the autopilot most of the time. He used the autopilot on tis last IFR approach into Montgomery to intercept the localizer and tracked it almost to the ground. During the accident flight he apparently hadn't Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12031101585887080647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-59662578913103122392021-10-25T18:02:45.557-04:002021-10-25T18:02:45.557-04:00Yes, definitely permissible, I do it all the time,...Yes, definitely permissible, I do it all the time, say "field in sight" and approach will rapidly clear you visual instead of instrument approach. If you are already "switched over" to the tower, they (tower controller) generally don't care and are past issuing you vectors, so just can break off early into base leg for the circle to land procedure. As a courtesy I'd Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-80682624243174100312021-10-25T16:01:21.634-04:002021-10-25T16:01:21.634-04:00Preliminary report came out just 14 days from the ...Preliminary report came out just 14 days from the accident.<br /><br />It is interesting to read the preliminary report's transcription:<br />"the pilot said [unintelligible], VFR 23"<br /><br />Listening to the LiveAtc recording and using the report's "VFR" interpretation, all of the words included below can be heard:<br /><br />"[unintelligible], <i>is two two Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26942196000254249952021-10-25T14:32:51.648-04:002021-10-25T14:32:51.648-04:00Carbon monoxide is CO, not CO2. Carbon monoxide im...Carbon monoxide is CO, not CO2. Carbon monoxide impairs pilots, carbon dioxide is what makes carbonated beverages fizz. No investigator would propose "CO2 poisoning" in this accident. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-69214448365777444632021-10-25T07:54:53.149-04:002021-10-25T07:54:53.149-04:00Have to agree with you guys above re incapacitatio...Have to agree with you guys above re incapacitation or control surface issue, most likely the former given engine rpm. The footage clearly shows no attempt at recovery whatsoever.<br /><br />And yes also agree and have alluded to in other posts that perhaps KR should start vetting/deleting disrespectful troll posts which are sadly becoming more prevalent on the site, and IMO are clearly not from Stuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14386930218593322530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-12754459691524237502021-10-24T16:34:37.065-04:002021-10-24T16:34:37.065-04:00The possibility of impairment/incapacitation on an...The possibility of impairment/incapacitation on an accident day is more believable if a pilot's other recent flight comms and flown tracks demonstrate precision and consistently good airmanship.<br /><br />It remains to be seen whether the investigation will include preserving and evaluating other recent flight comms and associated controller display data for comparison. The FAA's 45 day Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-12642885820430714102021-10-22T21:55:55.265-04:002021-10-22T21:55:55.265-04:00Lotsa speculation on "incapacitation" bu...Lotsa speculation on "incapacitation" but his comms in the previous flights were similar. Seems he stuck to a single flight type between 2 specific airports and that's it. Here he had something more challenging. Experience and time flying don't translate to competence. Bonin had 2900 hrs as SIC and failed to recognize an Airbus 330 was in a deep stall as he was pulling aft the MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35708371132347879422021-10-22T21:07:21.420-04:002021-10-22T21:07:21.420-04:00The above is a good point. I don’t have a way to ...The above is a good point. I don’t have a way to overlay the images but I understand the thought process. The aopa video seems convinced of the pilot beginning a circle too far out. That doesn’t make sense because the doctor is the one to push to be cleared for the ils. Also, why would a doctor ignore approach category distance circle protections? I don’t think he was confused over his Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-58474255007242891942021-10-22T19:22:28.797-04:002021-10-22T19:22:28.797-04:00Offering the content below only to determine wheth...Offering the content below only to determine whether one possible explanation of pilot actions can be eliminated.<br /><br />The question of whether the pilot unintentionally turned away from intercepting the localizer or turned away on purpose to carry out a RW23 approach track on his own interpretation can benefit from examining where the turn away was made.<br /><br />Stating the question Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com