tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post3801802600409690143..comments2024-03-28T21:15:11.065-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cessna T210R Turbo Centurion, N6209U: Fatal accident occurred November 24, 2021 near Grove City Airport (29D), Mercer County, PennsylvaniaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-15045680507020410082023-04-29T20:35:09.717-04:002023-04-29T20:35:09.717-04:00For all of you brilliant folks criticizing the dec...For all of you brilliant folks criticizing the deceased: he purchased 6 quarts - that doesn’t mean he added all 6 quarts. 1 quart of hot oil sprayed all over the bottom of the fuselage can look like a lot more. How would he know how many quarts leaked out and therefore exactly how many to buy? These engines regularly need oil added, so it probably made sense to just buy 6 at the time (some toAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-91364428777641880842022-11-24T08:33:39.315-05:002022-11-24T08:33:39.315-05:00God bless Rick's and Keith's souls on the ...<br />God bless Rick's and Keith's souls on the first anniversary of this accident. RIP. They will both be remembered fondly by their friends, colleagues, and families. One minor correction to the comment above that two (2) of the six (6) through bolts were doing nothing. The report appears to indicate that four (4) of the six (6) through bolts were doing nothing. bob.palle@teleportxx.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-48209345623064883772021-12-28T08:14:06.239-05:002021-12-28T08:14:06.239-05:00Wasn’t this aircraft designed back in the 1950s? J...Wasn’t this aircraft designed back in the 1950s? Just wondering seems it lacked any kind of modern warning/diagnostic system. Ironic how today you can drive to hangar in Audi A8 w/state-of-the-art safety sensors/technology, then climb into a curmudgeon aircraft designed 75 years ago and can add oil but can’t actually view the engine…scary.Pizzamannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202074855803382936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75976699971278968932021-12-27T01:37:57.238-05:002021-12-27T01:37:57.238-05:00Madness. Losing six quarts of oil and having it b...Madness. Losing six quarts of oil and having it blow all over the airplane and not engaging in even the most pedestrian level of investigation as to how this happened? And one of the decedents was an A&P???? <br /><br />Flying airplanes and living to tell about it requires some judgement, decision making, and risk mitigating skills. When the engine pukes six quarts of oil onto itself, it TexasAviator1946https://www.blogger.com/profile/08174191250891580532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-76536077049791207662021-12-22T19:16:20.425-05:002021-12-22T19:16:20.425-05:00This is not Carrol Shelby at Sebring Gas oil and G...This is not Carrol Shelby at Sebring Gas oil and Go tis is an aircraft and this gentlemen is A an P ceritfied. why why why how did six quarts of oil get out of the engine?? Sorry for the loss to both Familiesmartin moffitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812578254869426661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34950005241271850542021-12-17T20:08:12.662-05:002021-12-17T20:08:12.662-05:00That clearly wasn't the dipstick they needed t...That clearly wasn't the dipstick they needed to worry about!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-64706346454460411442021-12-15T14:52:24.933-05:002021-12-15T14:52:24.933-05:00I believe so. Sadly if they had pulled the cowl or...I believe so. Sadly if they had pulled the cowl or realized that a dipstick loose would not pump out that much oil they would be here today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-79233854190910689252021-12-15T14:49:59.228-05:002021-12-15T14:49:59.228-05:00It is upsetting to me because Keith was a good fri...It is upsetting to me because Keith was a good friend. He made a mistake and paid for it with his life. RIP Keith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-63239428809228710092021-12-15T10:21:49.747-05:002021-12-15T10:21:49.747-05:00and the complicit pax willingly helped, then climb...and the complicit pax willingly helped, then climbed back in!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-56929325564539886272021-12-14T21:38:56.497-05:002021-12-14T21:38:56.497-05:00So did poorly fastened bolts lead to major oil lea...So did poorly fastened bolts lead to major oil leakage with the eventual cessation of engine activity ? cunn9305https://www.blogger.com/profile/07470501530647256243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-68495052011306667292021-12-14T12:48:11.125-05:002021-12-14T12:48:11.125-05:00This may qualify for a Darwin award?
Add 6 quarts...This may qualify for a Darwin award?<br /><br />Add 6 quarts, wipe the oil off the plane, and GO!<br /><br />Un. Believable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-57112430194043919722021-12-12T14:59:50.986-05:002021-12-12T14:59:50.986-05:00And the A&P IA passenger decided to throw more...And the A&P IA passenger decided to throw more oil at it and call it good?<br /><br />What should have happened is pulling the cowl with whatever tool, rock, piece a scrap metal they could find to turn the fasteners.<br /><br />They then would have seen the cylinders about ready to fall off and said "We almost died". Well, died they did. RIP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-84697194347857192172021-12-11T04:52:47.353-05:002021-12-11T04:52:47.353-05:00Preliminary report is a real eye opener. Of the si...Preliminary report is a real eye opener. Of the six case thru bolts, two were not doing anything because a nut spun off on one end and two more had nuts backing off. Suggests incorrect torque during cylinder work.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-77126592041454595272021-12-01T13:16:10.549-05:002021-12-01T13:16:10.549-05:00He had a discrete transponder code, so he was like...He had a discrete transponder code, so he was likely on with flight following. Unfortunately the LiveATC feed for Youngstown approach has been down for over a year or otherwise we might be able to hear what he reported to ATC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-42923294872187401962021-11-30T18:27:11.317-05:002021-11-30T18:27:11.317-05:00Looks like he was trying to stretch the glide to G...Looks like he was trying to stretch the glide to Grove City Airport. Golf course and fields nearby - although looks like end of twilight was 5:30, 15 min before crash.Proihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468994424682341033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-85399034293853106052021-11-30T14:21:47.756-05:002021-11-30T14:21:47.756-05:00He was an A&P, so he could have done some work...He was an A&P, so he could have done some work himself. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-59737159350371690062021-11-29T22:26:10.743-05:002021-11-29T22:26:10.743-05:001 hour @ KAXQ. FBO offers fuel, no maintenance. Cl...1 hour @ KAXQ. FBO offers fuel, no maintenance. Closest advertised powerplant maintenance was Ravotti Air LLC. @<br />Franklin-Venango Regional Airport (KFKL), 21 nm NW of AXQ. https://www.aopa.org/destinations/business/32887 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-84958328097995454112021-11-29T18:59:53.704-05:002021-11-29T18:59:53.704-05:00https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a819e3&la...https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a819e3&lat=41.225&lon=-79.447&zoom=13.6&showTrace=2021-11-24&trackLabels<br /><br />Flightaware's Clarion arrival and flatline plot continuation:<br />https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N6209U/history/20211124/1830Z/KHPN/KAKR<br /><br />Flightaware's accident leg:<br />https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N6209U/history/20211124/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-58709600017673235912021-11-29T18:55:06.805-05:002021-11-29T18:55:06.805-05:00KEITH EDWARD VANOVER
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