tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post2797106864407745157..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cirrus SR22 GTS G3 Turbo, N949CG: Fatal accident occurred August 16, 2020 near Grand Glaize Airport (K15), Osage Beach, Camden County, MissouriUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-32051001979512922972023-02-24T17:59:22.605-05:002023-02-24T17:59:22.605-05:00No, a fitting end for two incompetent people.No, a fitting end for two incompetent people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-18291018927264058542021-06-13T14:14:24.215-04:002021-06-13T14:14:24.215-04:00Rich Weill, you are absolutely wrong on that one. ...Rich Weill, you are absolutely wrong on that one. The high boost can be turned on and left on. It is a simple 3 way switch, low boost forward, off in the middle and high boost rearward. I know this because on very hot days with the identical aircraft I use high boost to keep the CHT down when climbing. It makes a difference of about 20 to 25 degrees having it on high boost on a 100 degree dayCameron Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625931222579674113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-47611173851002275212021-06-13T14:12:51.879-04:002021-06-13T14:12:51.879-04:00Rich Weill, you are absolutely wrong on that one. ...Rich Weill, you are absolutely wrong on that one. The high boost can be turned on and left on. It is a simple 3 way switch, low boost forward, off in the middle and high boost rearward. I know this because on very hot days with the identical aircraft I use high boost to keep the CHT down when climbing. It makes a difference of about 20 to 25 degrees having it on high boost on a 100 degree dayCameron Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625931222579674113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-828183499602792372021-05-12T14:26:15.730-04:002021-05-12T14:26:15.730-04:00A terrible end for two good people.A terrible end for two good people.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903923265848496803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-25150116189325666782021-05-12T01:25:45.908-04:002021-05-12T01:25:45.908-04:00These cirrus aircraft sure like to stall spin easy...These cirrus aircraft sure like to stall spin easyDBR1990https://www.blogger.com/profile/08567397509552575015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-55674507396737488592021-04-07T13:30:36.663-04:002021-04-07T13:30:36.663-04:00spot on,agree 1000%, these lycomings and continent...spot on,agree 1000%, these lycomings and continental engines are outdated,70 years old technology, maybe something like this is the future ???! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHlFyxLbOYkPINTO!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04010445256714669317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70526851318177504842021-04-07T13:21:29.247-04:002021-04-07T13:21:29.247-04:00CHECKLISTS,CHECKLISTS,CHECKLISTS,CHECLISTSCHECKLISTS,CHECKLISTS,CHECKLISTS,CHECLISTSPINTO!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04010445256714669317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-24877364850868047732021-03-23T11:23:02.186-04:002021-03-23T11:23:02.186-04:00You cannot leave the pump in “high prime”. It req...You cannot leave the pump in “high prime”. It requires an active depression of the rocker switch to high prime the engine. You can, and do, leave ‘boost” on during startup. That is the electrical fuel pump, backup to the mechanical fuel pump. And yes, if you sit there with the boost pump left on you will eventually flood the engine and start dumping fuel overboard. If you have your RichWeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812937885766923009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-76246539008686208072021-03-15T21:58:45.204-04:002021-03-15T21:58:45.204-04:00He most likely put the plane into a cross control ...He most likely put the plane into a cross control stall. No need to pull the chute this is basic emergency procedures. Never EVER circle back to the airport if you experience engine issues at that altitude. Simply push it over gain airspeed for good glide attitude and look for a clearing straight ahead and only small turns to avoid obstaclesKylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12072243840733859553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26335129010910872342020-11-14T11:11:30.257-05:002020-11-14T11:11:30.257-05:00I still don't understand why hot starts are su...I still don't understand why hot starts are such a pain with the Jurassic technology in the front and for how much it costs. Cirrus managed to get rid of the prop control and the next task now would be to get rid of the mixture and consolidate everything into a single lever. Sadly prop/manifold pressure synchronization is easy mechanically (tons of youtube videos on how they did it) but the MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-61117143172175868222020-11-05T10:12:20.153-05:002020-11-05T10:12:20.153-05:00Cirrus Design Section 3
SR20 Emergency Procedures
...Cirrus Design Section 3<br />SR20 Emergency Procedures<br />In-Flight Emergencies<br />Engine Failure On Takeoff (Low Altitude)<br />If the engine fails immediately after becoming airborne, abort on the<br />runway if possible. If altitude precludes a runway stop but is not<br />sufficient to restart the engine, lower the nose to maintain airspeed<br />and establish a glide attitude. In most gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-36457057957467988152020-10-21T04:53:08.219-04:002020-10-21T04:53:08.219-04:00Stalled in a low turn back to runway. Never a good...Stalled in a low turn back to runway. Never a good idea. Even being low, should have pulled the chute and flown straight ahead into the crash. Might have reduced the energy to a survivable level.Maeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08253088259904154414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-77428860672044159252020-10-12T15:55:37.201-04:002020-10-12T15:55:37.201-04:00If there was engine flooding, maybe because he lef...If there was engine flooding, maybe because he left the mixture rich while cranking it, then difficulties starting it up and probably failed the magneto check during runup... why bother taking off to begin with?<br />Get-theritis strikes again...MarcPilotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-9925280788533034192020-09-20T19:17:15.885-04:002020-09-20T19:17:15.885-04:00If you haven't already informed them, you shou...If you haven't already informed them, you should email Cirrus your exact words stated above including this accident page url. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-4816654438833077022020-09-20T16:07:34.590-04:002020-09-20T16:07:34.590-04:00POH for this accident aircraft states:
- "Pri...POH for this accident aircraft states:<br />- "Prime" selection on pump switch is momentary<br />- Engine oil pressure interlock disables prime after start<br />- MFD shows fuel flow continuously, alarms/red if over 30 GPM<br /><br />May have been rich at takeoff, but not because momentary switch was in "Prime" on the accident aircraft, unless he held it down. A red box with Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-47543159163112816192020-09-19T22:15:25.981-04:002020-09-19T22:15:25.981-04:00N707DF Examination of the engine revealed signatur...<b>N707DF</b> Examination of the engine revealed signatures consistent with an excessively rich fuel/air mixture. The fuel manifold and engine-driven fuel pump were removed from the engine and installed onto a slave engine for a test run, during which the slave engine began to surge when the power was increased to 2,300 rpm; the fuel pressure indicated 234 psi (about 39 gph); a nominal value was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-91091345074551601152020-09-19T19:33:31.259-04:002020-09-19T19:33:31.259-04:00discussed in http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/11...discussed in http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2019/11/fuel-related-cirrus-sr22t-n707df-fatal_10.html including comments!gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-41137181812396397672020-09-16T13:02:12.200-04:002020-09-16T13:02:12.200-04:00I just read the report again. I do not see a ment...I just read the report again. I do not see a mention of Cirrus in the report other than the report of the flooding, black smoke. Is there another report I am missing? Cameron Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625931222579674113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-84085142680098456342020-09-16T06:40:42.527-04:002020-09-16T06:40:42.527-04:00While the NTSB preliminary report is critical of b...While the NTSB preliminary report is critical of both pilot and Cirrus, it offers valuable insights into how we can improve ... let's work together to further enhance our safety processes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-9679914135536817812020-09-15T18:24:59.254-04:002020-09-15T18:24:59.254-04:00I saw this the report on the the day it happened b...I saw this the report on the the day it happened but did not see the information about the engine issue until today.<br />I fly the identical bird, in fact mine is only 30 serial numbers newer. <br />I would be interested in knowing if the start was a hot or cold start.<br />These big Conti's normally start very easy cold. One or two blades go by on mine and it is running.<br />Hot starts Cameron Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11625931222579674113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-62280241293661726072020-08-27T19:33:42.841-04:002020-08-27T19:33:42.841-04:00Preliminary report is illuminating. Witness observ...Preliminary report is illuminating. Witness observations of black smoke during takeoff will be useful to investigators. Over-priming can explain black smoke seen during engine start, but the report of fuel observed coming out of the engine cowling and down the nose wheel is very odd if true. <br /><br />If someone was close enough to visually observe raw fuel running out of the cowling, some Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-85143061267250008752020-08-25T19:56:55.027-04:002020-08-25T19:56:55.027-04:00It's sad. Two people who were loved and will b...It's sad. Two people who were loved and will be missed by others has died in this fatal aircraft accident. I'm sorry for the lost and will pray for their family and friends.RiccoPittshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475043211309686394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7943048423902681772020-08-20T21:05:24.092-04:002020-08-20T21:05:24.092-04:00You are welcomeYou are welcomeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-26912530191080418472020-08-19T18:01:10.196-04:002020-08-19T18:01:10.196-04:00Media should never be allowed into a fatal acciden...Media should never be allowed into a fatal accident site until it has been secured by either NTSB or FAA and Coroner. Let the vultures circle outside.... they will make something up anyway !!20000 hr. ATPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115781583259944611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-52021269121676953682020-08-19T08:03:29.353-04:002020-08-19T08:03:29.353-04:00Photo with tail marking cleared up misinterpretati...Photo with tail marking cleared up misinterpretation of various SR22, SR22T, IO-550, TSIO-550 designations in registry records. Thanks.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com