tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post201592800158134334..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Piper PA-24 Comanche, N7742P: Fatal accident occurred October 20, 2019 at Angel Fire Airport (KAXX), Colfax County, New MexicoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35500947710556093322019-12-15T13:30:02.368-05:002019-12-15T13:30:02.368-05:00We’ve got to get much more specific about the offs...We’ve got to get much more specific about the offsets, let the passengers see what we are doing. <br /><br />Extraordinary men in an unbelievable place.<br /><br />Semper fidelis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34677942901125051762019-12-14T09:52:44.785-05:002019-12-14T09:52:44.785-05:00Sounds like a total win for Piper.
Reminds me of ...Sounds like a total win for Piper.<br /><br />Reminds me of the story of Brer Rabbit.<br /><i>"Roast me! Hang me! Do whatever you please,"</i> said Brer Rabbit. <i>"Only please, Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch.".</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-48230865168924885072019-12-07T04:40:43.833-05:002019-12-07T04:40:43.833-05:00The problem is not as simple as that. Early proble...The problem is not as simple as that. Early problematic flight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-75067064880921678442019-12-06T21:04:52.533-05:002019-12-06T21:04:52.533-05:00I'm sure the aircraft maintenance inspections ...I'm sure the aircraft maintenance inspections would detect fatigue cracks and overstress. W&B is another whole issue along with the leveling provisions CG. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-31025787022501453002019-12-06T20:03:18.332-05:002019-12-06T20:03:18.332-05:00It seems odd that aviation regulators did not catc...It seems odd that aviation regulators did not catch these practices themselves. This also illustrates why eyewitnesses have important roles to play in revealing probable cause and findings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-80011972570208192492019-11-25T11:03:14.865-05:002019-11-25T11:03:14.865-05:00After watching the excellent briefing video, I don...After watching the excellent briefing video, I don't know why anyone would take off to the South given the fact that you are going to have a crosswind no matter what. At least you will have some distance to make some important decisions going North.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-45216502741109711562019-11-13T13:45:18.402-05:002019-11-13T13:45:18.402-05:00Watch this video. Considering the field length is ...Watch this video. Considering the field length is 8900 feet, and the location of Zeb's Restaurant - Google Maps measures the distance from takeoff to crash at around 12,300 feet. The airplane only looks to have about 50 feet of altitude at the time of impact. Look at the excellent briefing that is provided at the top of this article, and I bet there was rotor on the lee side of the mountain Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-90216518447191264322019-11-13T13:44:25.670-05:002019-11-13T13:44:25.670-05:00Watch this video. Considering the field length is ...Watch this video. Considering the field length is 8900 feet, and the location of Zeb's Restaurant - Google Maps measures the distance from takeoff to crash at around 12,300 feet. The airplane only looks to have about 50 feet of altitude at the time of impact. Look at the excellent briefing that is provided at the top of this article, and I bet there was rotor on the lee side of the mountain Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-25416311624576184252019-11-05T11:42:09.872-05:002019-11-05T11:42:09.872-05:00Great briefing in the video at the top. Good job.
...Great briefing in the video at the top. Good job.<br /><br />7CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-27902518512457717402019-11-05T07:52:52.142-05:002019-11-05T07:52:52.142-05:00Find some more "big picture" info about ...Find some more "big picture" info about Angel Fire (KAXX) here. https://youtu.be/AmrAX7tSvvQ Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02268719810561492924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-62760926316016854212019-10-28T19:17:08.996-04:002019-10-28T19:17:08.996-04:00 I’m convinced some of these accidents are caused ... I’m convinced some of these accidents are caused from planes that have engines that are underperforming and not noticeable at lower altitude but when they need the performance at higher altitudes it is unavailable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-11860439365403717082019-10-28T11:55:05.734-04:002019-10-28T11:55:05.734-04:00I looked at weather at time of departure: Winds fr...I looked at weather at time of departure: Winds from West 13 mph gust 21 mph and 46F. 20 mph (17 kts) is the demonstrated cross wind component in Manual... It was a 180 HP not 250 HP Comanche. Runway 17/35 means it was a direct cross wind but well within limits. The runway is 8900 x 100. Was the aircraft over loaded? Was the engine healthy and not worn out. It should have been making 75% power..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-39672283311837215392019-10-28T10:53:14.001-04:002019-10-28T10:53:14.001-04:0050kt cross wind? Really what was METAR at time of ...50kt cross wind? Really what was METAR at time of departure? Cross wind and density altitude are factors, but the comments cross wind "flipped him over and straight in" shows a lack of understanding of how aircraft fly and cross winds. Clearly he was flying, had flying airspeed. If he stalled, that explains the accident, failure to maintain flying airspeed. However cross wind and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-503002152568939312019-10-25T21:04:27.805-04:002019-10-25T21:04:27.805-04:00Lived in Kansas while working for a manufacturer ....Lived in Kansas while working for a manufacturer ... Flew in and out a lot of the airports in Kansas. Can't recall any of the airports that were not aligned with the wind on dang near every day of the year.<br /><br />30 or 40 mph wind down the runway in Kansas does not compare to the cross wind on that fateful day at 8000' msl. YMMV.<br /><br />Again, RIP<br /><br />7CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-42327573387981149962019-10-25T20:44:35.761-04:002019-10-25T20:44:35.761-04:00Great Bend, KS Barton County
Strongest 13 March, ...Great Bend, KS Barton County <br />Strongest 13 March, 2019 40.3mph S Average 2010–Present 11.9mph<br />Strongest 21 October, 2019 33.3mph NW Average October 13.9mphgretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-24483419827489679782019-10-25T10:18:10.647-04:002019-10-25T10:18:10.647-04:00A 180 Comanche needs to be a 250 Comanche. Two peo...A 180 Comanche needs to be a 250 Comanche. Two people, baggage, enough fuel to make Kansas, 8,000 feet MSL. That's a challenge with no wind.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07724160329782296846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-7565509325792774802019-10-25T07:34:36.808-04:002019-10-25T07:34:36.808-04:00Comanche 180 is a great plane ... operated out of ...Comanche 180 is a great plane ... operated out of near sea level airports that is.<br /><br />Departing from an 8000' msl airport would be a challenge even before you throw in the cross wind ... a cross wind reportedly far exceeding the maximum demonstrated cross wind for the aircraft.<br /><br />RIPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-79625892601736576412019-10-21T15:48:59.310-04:002019-10-21T15:48:59.310-04:00Just like Mooney N3484X that took off from Angel F...Just like Mooney N3484X that took off from Angel Fire in 50 knot crosswinds on March 3, 2013. Flipped him over and straight in. He too was warned and questioned by airport personnel. What are these guys thinking? No consideration for anyone's life, including their own. It's basic meteorology and flight planning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-43484639074544026462019-10-21T14:37:08.915-04:002019-10-21T14:37:08.915-04:00Angel Fire airport is almost 8400 ft above sea lev...Angel Fire airport is almost 8400 ft above sea level. It is a challenging airport even when the wind is calm...DaveDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349270148143817715noreply@blogger.com