tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post1532966497328484207..comments2024-03-28T21:15:11.065-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Cessna 421C Golden Eagle II, N66NC: Accident occurred July 10, 2021 at Vance Brand Airport (KLMO), Longmont, Boulder County, ColoradoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70390387497563539532023-04-28T19:33:22.089-04:002023-04-28T19:33:22.089-04:00Can someone explain to me something that another p...Can someone explain to me something that another person said about the props would be facing forward if the engines were not producing enough power? I mean at 90+ knots whether they were or weren’t producing enough power would they not bend back at that speed?<br />Also as to the baggage doors if one door was missing it would baffle me, but it is obvious that the nose of the aircraft hit square Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-56877239459455396072021-07-28T08:04:19.455-04:002021-07-28T08:04:19.455-04:00One of the things I’ve heard and never forgotten: ...One of the things I’ve heard and never forgotten: it’s always better to go off the end of the runway slowing down than to try and nurse a sick plane into the air. Glad everyone survived. Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15478871466714699271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-31296033557149770802021-07-27T22:46:27.619-04:002021-07-27T22:46:27.619-04:00Density altitude not a major factor with turbo cha...Density altitude not a major factor with turbo charged engines.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842458611164897848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-9010502550263753942021-07-27T22:43:43.773-04:002021-07-27T22:43:43.773-04:00Turbo engines; density altitude not a major player...Turbo engines; density altitude not a major player, certainly not at 7,500 feet.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09842458611164897848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-33339010033568313302021-07-27T21:14:37.196-04:002021-07-27T21:14:37.196-04:00Were you two little bitches married to each other ...Were you two little bitches married to each other previously??!....I would bet one ...or both....are AP Mechanics!! ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-76662244181021020822021-07-26T14:28:54.526-04:002021-07-26T14:28:54.526-04:00N6866K was partially improper response to forward ...N6866K was partially improper response to forward baggage door opening but the biggest problem was the pilot feathering the wrong propeller.<br /><br />It doesn't sound like the manual requires an engine be shutdown after a baggage door opens. Only reason I could see an engine needing to be shut down after losing a baggage door is if the door hit the propeller and caused damage creating an Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-46900144847012669832021-07-25T18:32:28.613-04:002021-07-25T18:32:28.613-04:00N6866K accident was improper response to a forward...N6866K accident was improper response to a forward baggage door opening on takeoff. As someone mentioned in earlier comments, both forward baggage doors are missing in these N66NC post crash photos.<br /><br />You can see all the way thru both baggage door openings in second photo. No hinge arm remnants are visible on the starboard side opening. Seems odd to have both doors missing with fire Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30311693732595611462021-07-25T14:43:45.451-04:002021-07-25T14:43:45.451-04:00Glad everyone got out. As a former 421C owner I ca...Glad everyone got out. As a former 421C owner I can only relay my experience that they are wonderful airplanes with lots of power. You need to be well-trained to fly them. My only negative experiences were due to the finicky nature of the mixture setting on those engines. The pilot's comment and airport elevation would make me want to look at that first. ColinBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02460784395793482726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-82858234589701125582021-07-24T12:01:08.033-04:002021-07-24T12:01:08.033-04:00For insight see N6866K Cessna 421C @ ABQ accident....For insight see N6866K Cessna 421C @ ABQ accident.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-23484537847218357172021-07-23T22:49:09.763-04:002021-07-23T22:49:09.763-04:00Counting their blessings. Fatal stats show 400 se...Counting their blessings. Fatal stats show 400 series Cessnas are a real handfull in trouble after takeoff. Ethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705728826375207872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-1570411027931188092021-07-23T12:30:59.039-04:002021-07-23T12:30:59.039-04:00Thanks for confirming that they are bent back whic...Thanks for confirming that they are bent back which means they were not producing power on contact. If powered up the blades bend forward. Chief?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-5978283936279950862021-07-22T21:07:29.653-04:002021-07-22T21:07:29.653-04:00Turbocharged engines don't feel the density al...Turbocharged engines don't feel the density altitude until reaching and exceeding the altitude where the waste gates are fully closed.<br /><br />At the 7000+ density altitude he was at the waste gates would only be partially closed and he would have been producing near sea level power if the engines were operating properly.<br /><br />The props and wings would be feeling the density altitudeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-29556278290992752812021-07-22T19:02:11.300-04:002021-07-22T19:02:11.300-04:00Look closer chief...the visible blades in both pho...Look closer chief...the visible blades in both photos, top and horizontal one, and bent back and curled back at the tips. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-86087042446803055892021-07-22T17:53:54.461-04:002021-07-22T17:53:54.461-04:0010:18:18 6 groud L
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10:24:51 93 ...10:18:18 6 groud L<br />10:24:32 73 4700 L<br />10:24:51 93 4700 L<br />Speed: 93 kt<br />Altitude: 4,700 ft<br />Vert. Rate: 64 ft/min<br />Track: 302.7°<br />Pos.: 40.168°, -105.171°<br />https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a8b30f&lat=40.161&lon=-105.167&zoom=14.3&showTrace=2021-07-10&leg=1&trackLabelsgretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-20648452853837599332021-07-22T17:23:09.110-04:002021-07-22T17:23:09.110-04:00Right prop was not pulling when touched the earth....Right prop was not pulling when touched the earth. If it was the blades would be bent forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-39544502405439745122021-07-22T16:52:01.219-04:002021-07-22T16:52:01.219-04:00Wondering who removed the nose baggage doors.Wondering who removed the nose baggage doors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-76140618535851091852021-07-22T15:23:22.304-04:002021-07-22T15:23:22.304-04:00http://www.pilotfriend.com/pilot_resources/density...http://www.pilotfriend.com/pilot_resources/density.htm<br /><br />Works out to a density altitude of 7171'S Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920797630653854987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-36118955021756526272021-07-22T13:36:59.775-04:002021-07-22T13:36:59.775-04:00Almost certainly more nuanced than that alone; reg...Almost certainly more nuanced than that alone; registered engines were GTSIO-520 SER Continentals. and with only 4 on board? Lucky, though! Could've easily been a fireball...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-63039450846888294912021-07-22T13:24:37.585-04:002021-07-22T13:24:37.585-04:00Ah, 4799ft ? 915am local. Not that late in the da...Ah, 4799ft ? 915am local. Not that late in the day "Unknown"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-37244505657271817032021-07-22T09:19:30.350-04:002021-07-22T09:19:30.350-04:00Density altitude at the time was 7500 feet. No sur...Density altitude at the time was 7500 feet. No surprises here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05891621852177682107noreply@blogger.com