tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post1463293334515283968..comments2024-03-26T09:35:29.969-04:00Comments on Kathryn's Report: Arion Lightning LS-1, N81DJ: Fatal accident occurred April 09, 2020 near Mount Pleasant Regional Airport (KLRO), Charleston County, South CarolinaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-30334697746781749112022-05-08T01:54:58.737-04:002022-05-08T01:54:58.737-04:00NTSB final report came out 2 days ago, probable ca...NTSB final report came out 2 days ago, probable cause reads as follows:<br /><br />The pilot's failure to maintain clearance from trees at the end of the runway due to spatial disorientation during initial climb in dark night conditions. Also causal was the flight instructor’s inadequate monitoring, which did not identify and prevent the descent and subsequent collision with trees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-66320561469270866402022-04-23T08:41:00.562-04:002022-04-23T08:41:00.562-04:00Had those trees been 3' tall, the outcome woul...Had those trees been 3' tall, the outcome would have been the same. Unless you are an idiot or a sleazy lawyer, it is clear to anyone that the tree height was in no way causal to the accident -- even if they were "too tall". Tragic, of course. Someone else's fault? Please. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-2621585167570510922022-04-16T14:19:17.381-04:002022-04-16T14:19:17.381-04:00120knt max cruise? That airframe is slippery enoug...120knt max cruise? That airframe is slippery enough to go much faster than that.Cybercraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164678222124970179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35672499417057276442022-04-14T18:29:22.253-04:002022-04-14T18:29:22.253-04:00Bad piloting, or malfunction?
This aircraft was e...Bad piloting, or malfunction?<br /><br />This aircraft was equipped with a GRT EIS 6000J Engine Monitor and there was no fire. The Jabiru 3300 engine had the cowling around it when it came to rest. No reporting of engine condition or recovered monitor data so far.<br /><br />Build instructions show that initial per-aircraft tuning was required to work out Bing carburetor jetting for every Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-67501691999271594582022-04-14T14:32:50.291-04:002022-04-14T14:32:50.291-04:00for airports receiving federal AIP funding Advisor...for airports receiving federal AIP funding Advisory Circulars become mandatory to maintain the funding. There are many "little airports" in the last decade who have lost access to AIP funds because they are unable to comply with various Advisory Circulars. While circulars are not mandatory for pilots they are very much so for airports who want funding. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-33782646984725095732022-04-14T13:19:54.108-04:002022-04-14T13:19:54.108-04:00A giant of a man, plus ostensibly a more than 100 ...A giant of a man, plus ostensibly a more than 100 pound instructor, put this airplane over gross; period.<br />I flew one of these things in my fifty plus years as a pilot.<br />It was a slippery delight.<br />Maybe the parasitic lawyers should go after the flight instructor's estate.<br />After all, this appears to be just another act of stupidity.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-35099305985751056582022-04-13T11:06:23.506-04:002022-04-13T11:06:23.506-04:00Notice that the date of the filing preserved the a...Notice that the date of the filing preserved the ability to sue by not letting South Carolina's 24 month limitation date go by, after which no lawsuit could be filed against SC entities.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-71682514041225953992022-04-13T09:27:09.210-04:002022-04-13T09:27:09.210-04:00interesting promotion @ https://www.thelegaladvoca...interesting promotion @ https://www.thelegaladvocate.com/news/breaking/glenn-lamb-killed-small-plane-crash-mount-pleasant-regional-airport<br />"SOUTH CAROLINA WRONGFUL DEATH ATTORNEY<br /><br />Pending the investigation, the family of Glenn Lamb may be entitled to a wrongful death claim. Family members of wrongful death victims may seek damages for loss of companionship, pain and suffering,gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-70917430720009732872022-04-13T09:24:42.025-04:002022-04-13T09:24:42.025-04:00agree. What is also possible, student pilot Mr Lam...agree. What is also possible, student pilot Mr Lamb was returning to aviation after a long absence.gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-90629704633479120012022-04-13T08:59:29.867-04:002022-04-13T08:59:29.867-04:00If someone is killed in a SC plane crash, their su...If someone is killed in a SC plane crash, their surviving family members (the spouse and children or parents and heirs if there is no spouse or children) can recover the following compensation by filing a wrongful death lawsuit:<br /><br /> Funeral and burial expenses<br /> Medical bills incurred by the deceased before their death<br /> Property damage<br /> Loss of consortium damagesgretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-25732934115827832782022-04-13T07:28:04.036-04:002022-04-13T07:28:04.036-04:00The lawyers are making the airport authority live ...The lawyers are making the airport authority live up to the duty of care principle in accordance with what is stated in applicable requirements.<br /><br />Pilots understand that trimming those trees to be 50 feet high instead pf 75 to 90 feet high wouldn't have changed the outcome at the point where pilot error or machine malfunction put the aircraft into a collision path with the trees.<br Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-88484782328211705102022-04-13T06:54:49.690-04:002022-04-13T06:54:49.690-04:00In the case of Advisory Circular 150-5300-13, the ...In the case of Advisory Circular 150-5300-13, the circular explains how to meet requirements that are not advisory in nature.<br /><br />From page 11 (pdf dheet 26):<br /><i><b>"Maintenance of obstacle clearance surfaces.</b> Federally obligated airports are subject to Grant Assurances 20 and 21 which require the protection of the approach and departure surfaces."</i><br /><br />Grant Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-44346962649727024202022-04-13T01:18:19.405-04:002022-04-13T01:18:19.405-04:00Clearing the trees should not have been a problem ...Clearing the trees should not have been a problem even if the "touch and go" was long and late and they lifted off on the "35" numbers heading southbound. At take-off speed the would have covered the 2,000 ft. distance to the airport perimeter fence in 16 to 20 seconds. Even at a degraded rate of climb of 1,000 fpm in the LS-1 they should have been at 265 to 400 ft above Texas Flyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13767425369411984547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-34584502774892756092022-04-12T22:19:31.211-04:002022-04-12T22:19:31.211-04:00That's pretty easy to do. When I first got my ... That's pretty easy to do. When I first got my ticket I flew my young family from Minden, LA to Hallettsville, TX. We left late and about 1/2 of the flight was after dark on a moonless night. No big deal... I have all of those night hours (the minimum) from training. I will never forget the feeling of the "stupid airplane turning for no reason" when we got over an unpopulated area MikeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17016462438630782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-31509986185445616592022-04-12T22:10:25.232-04:002022-04-12T22:10:25.232-04:00Possible cause loss of control from spatial disori...Possible cause loss of control from spatial disorientation as a result of departure into a moonless night.<br />April 09, 2020 the moon was under the horizon @ 2100 hours per if I understood the charts @ https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/usa/charleston-sc. gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-83284874608552223012022-04-12T21:26:06.284-04:002022-04-12T21:26:06.284-04:00There is a post at the bottom that references a 40...There is a post at the bottom that references a 400+ page document but no dimensions are given.MikeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17016462438630782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-11049670694170596572022-04-12T21:24:03.346-04:002022-04-12T21:24:03.346-04:00Cherry picking a 400+ page document. :) Cherry picking a 400+ page document. :) MikeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17016462438630782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-73935994046712339082022-04-12T21:18:47.087-04:002022-04-12T21:18:47.087-04:00FAA's ACs are not mandatory and does not const...FAA's ACs are not mandatory and does not constitute a regulation. "Advisory Circulars are informational documents produced by the Federal Aviation Administration to inform and guide institutions and individuals within the aviation industry, as well as the general public. Advisory Circulars are intended to be informative in nature and not regulatory; however, many times they describe gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-69296992167681670512022-04-12T20:42:33.091-04:002022-04-12T20:42:33.091-04:00Advisory Circular 150-5300-13 that only allows for...Advisory Circular 150-5300-13 that only allows for a 50 foot tall tree at a distance of 2000' from the runway easily wins the case for the plaintiffs.<br /><br />See explanation comment further down the thread...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-72251461446838087552022-04-12T20:37:17.556-04:002022-04-12T20:37:17.556-04:00The 40:1 Departure Surface slope imposed on airpor...The 40:1 Departure Surface slope imposed on airports that have instrument procedures by Advisory Circular 150-5300-13 only allows for a 50 foot tall tree at a distance of 2000'.<br /><br />See explanation comment further down the thread...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-57043271151082181912022-04-12T20:17:57.228-04:002022-04-12T20:17:57.228-04:00The lawsuit is correct. The tree heights exceed FA...The lawsuit is correct. The tree heights exceed FAA standards. <br /><br />This is an airport design/management issue, a subtle <i>gotcha</i> that any airport with instrument procedures is subject to. It matters not where along the runway the T&G touched or why the aircraft didn't climb, or that a power loss crash would have gone into lower-height trees further ahead even if the standard Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-6870895292950639202022-04-12T20:00:44.943-04:002022-04-12T20:00:44.943-04:00Oh... I thought this was an approach to land probl...Oh... I thought this was an approach to land problem. Your last paragraph makes sense.MikeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17016462438630782612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-89918001172501450602022-04-12T17:30:32.411-04:002022-04-12T17:30:32.411-04:00ur drawing a conclusion that PIC touched and depar...ur drawing a conclusion that PIC touched and departed in the first half of 3700ft. Ur "And the touch and go would have been done in the first half of the runway." is not verified from info provided.<br />April 9, 2020 "Waning Gibbous Illumination: 97%."<br />as noted KLRO Elevation: 11.6 ft. / 3.5 m (surveyed)<br />last return approx 5000 ft from the numbers "Thu 20:54:21gretnabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532199082129778356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-68824081575068111012022-04-12T15:08:26.861-04:002022-04-12T15:08:26.861-04:00The runway at KLRO is relatively small at 3700 fee...The runway at KLRO is relatively small at 3700 feet (compared to the 9500 they had when they departed KMYR)<br /><br />The winds were reported as 250 at 6 gusting 13, so a direct crosswind at 13ish knots. The maximum demonstrated crosswind component was 15 knots.<br /><br />Generally speaking, touch and go's at night can be dangerous. That is why the FAA specifically specifies "full stopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6060827553081940333.post-21001143503377185972022-04-12T14:24:32.687-04:002022-04-12T14:24:32.687-04:00To be clear, the LS-1 was practicing a "touch...To be clear, the LS-1 was practicing a "touch and go" - That means it came in on Final for Runway 17, the wheels should have touched the runway and then they would have continued to take off immediately and depart directly south past the "35" markings at the south end of the runway. The wreckage was about 2,000 ft. beyond that southern end of the runway. The PAPI lights and Texas Flyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13767425369411984547noreply@blogger.com