Aircraft on landing experienced a gust wind and was pushed off the runway into the grass damaging landing gear.
MJN Aviation LLC
Date: 16-OCT-22
Time: 14:00:00Z
Regis#: N701BT
Aircraft Make: CIRRUS
Aircraft Model: SR22
Event Type: INCIDENT
Highest Injury: NONE
Flight Crew: 1 No Injuries
Pax: 1 No Injuries
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: UNKNOWN
Activity: PERSONAL
Flight Phase: LANDING (LDG)
Operation: 91
City: BOSCOBEL
State: WISCONSIN
KOVS 161353Z AUTO 28007KT CLR 07/02 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP164 T00670017 $
ReplyDeleteKOVS 161453Z AUTO 29009G17KT CLR 09/02 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP165 T00940022 51013 $
"gust of wind", "engine out" etc... those are codewords for sheer incompetence sometimes i.e unable to use rudder properly, maintain runway centerline and add a gust of wind factor on landing, fuel mismanagement etc...
ReplyDeletePlus... you can always go around right?
Exactly right...those pesky "wind gusts" get these guys every time.
ReplyDeleteCastering nose wheel requires differential braking as speed drops on runway.
ReplyDeleteThey need to add a drogue chute in the tail for veer-offs.
^^Yeah that will sell well in future Cirrus variants with yet more added weight on top of the well known CAPS. As if light aircraft have all the weight headroom in the world of an old F-4 with a drag chute that can be overcome by raw power.
Delete"They need to add a drogue chute in the tail for veer-offs."
DeleteCurious, how many years experience do you have in aerospace engineering?
I have 2 years 11 months and 6 days. How many do *you* have?! Don’t question my authority on the matter.
DeleteI was a junior intern at a very respected government sub contractor. I paid hundreds of dollars do work for them.
DeleteI believe the 'drogue chute' comment was a joke. As if Cirrus could add chutes to cover every contingency which might arise. Eventually the aircraft would be more parachute than plane.
DeleteStroud 410 chute launcher w/chute is 11 pounds, $750 @ Jegs. Cirrus just needs one of Lee Iacocca's retired engineers who did cab forward at Chrysler to help them rebalance for the long moment arm and get this done.
DeleteCirrus could also add small chutes attached to messages in bottles that you can drop in the event of radio failure.
DeleteYou are supposed to deploy CAPS for radio failure.
DeleteOnce the chute is deployed, I understand the airframe is rendered totally useless. Is that true?
ReplyDeleteYes, because the damage to the composite structure can be invisible and would cost more to evaluate i.e strip it of paint and shine a light through it or use other non destructive methods than it would be worth to total the plane. It is sad for the price that those planes don't have a slightly larger parachute to limit the speed to the 5-10 mph range on impact and anti skid brakes to maximize break effectivity especially on landing when the flaps are down and the weight on the mains is minimal. When I look inside a brand new Cirrus I see at most 100k worth of hardware, if I compare it to equivalent car or non certified stuff which would be exactly the same. A&P here.
DeleteI’ve heard that as well and I’d say it comes down to the airframe being made entirely of composite material. This is my opinion and I’m not a composite material expert but it seems like if the fuselage is damaged during the collision with the ground after chute deployment, the only way to properly fix the fuselage is to just make a new one. So, might as well just total the plane.
DeleteAhh, we’ll there you go. The poster at 3:20:00 basically backed up my uneducated guess I gave in my post at 3:25:00. That just seems like the logical reason they’d total it.
DeleteAccording to the Cirrus Owners and Pilots Association, as of 24 October 2019, 21 of the aircraft involved in CAPS deployments had been repaired and put back into service
DeleteCircumstantial. For testing they would deploy the chute at higher altitudes then cut it away and fly off to reuse the airplane for more testing.
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